Like to add my bit as I ran the 2011 Marathon,which was a well organised event,fantastic support from the people of the City and fellow runners
I am gutted as I was looking at entering again,the reception we had coming out of the Tunnel would be worth the entry fee alone ..
Thanks for the memories Alan,will see you at the Liverpool Half in March
Liverbird, look back I didn't say it was easy, but I maintain there's good money to be had. As for my grammer cidermonkey when animals of limited intelligence find they've run into a blind alley they will try to jump a 20 foot wall, it appears by resorting to insult you may be facing your 20 foot wall.
1-3medals you have to understand the liverpool mentality for earning money, yes someone could have been around selling food to the masses, but unless it falls into the lap, the locals aren't interested. Point in question a factory offering 300 jobs (about 5% taken by locals) has recently closed and received 10,000 complaints against them for burning a deadly fuel - wood!
Are you talking about the Sonae plant? It never re-opened properly after the last of several fires and safety scares, and was closed by its owners. It wasn't closed by 10,000 complaints as you suggest.
Yes you're right it was closed by the owners, and I didn't suggest it was closed by the level of compliant but it had a concerted effort of campaigning from the residents since opening. people have lodged complaints since the first year of opening when one resident was wrongly rumoured to have received a pay off, what I'm saying is the 10,000 are typical of the area.
So, never mind the side issues what about the real important stuff. What alternative Marathons are there for that weekend.
It does appear Nick is a huge fan of Liverpool, a race organising expert as well as being a local industry guru. Sort out the literacy and you'd be dangerous......
and this from the council's own website (Dalestreetnews) about the 2012 marathon
The second RunLiverpool Marathon is proving a big hit with runners from as far afield as Australia and Brazil! Interest in the event from beyond Merseyside has been increasing over the last six months with many countries and continents being represented.
Scandinavia is the most popular region outside the U.K. and closer to home the race is popular with runners from the North Midlands and East Yorkshire. 73% of entrants are from outside the Merseyside area proving once again the popularity of Liverpool and the city region as a tourist destination.'
I suppose this years could be ' Great opportunity to visit Liverpool. There is nothing going on and the roads will be empty'
I do have quite a breadth of industry experience, particularly north west related and can tell you that it suggests anyone who opens a business in Liverpool will either be a multi-national that doesn't listen to people on the ground floor (eventually failing), totally lacking in business savvy, or a Scouser. It's nothing personal just what those in the industry know.
The Scouse population is notoriously difficult to work with, does not accept outsiders, will support their own even when in the wrong, and can do no wrong, there's always someone else at fault. Anyone offering a different view.
Nick Brown - I take exception to your simple approach to maths and would advise the event isn't a goldmine. As you have no idea as the ACTUAL costs then I can't see how you can make such a casual comment. This isn't about money generated by the event.
The event was estimated to have generated a £1.4 million economic benefit to the city in 2011 but seemingly it wasn't spent in the right areas.
The impact of extended road closures on the Liverpool waterfront and the perceived negative commercial effect on waterfront businesses is why it has been cancelled. I was asked to consider a reversal of the course (finishing on the Wirral side) and I don't consider that to be in the best interests of the event in the long term. It merely moves the problem of inconvenience for Liverpool roads users and their access to waterfront businesses.
I believe the course in it's current form to be the best for RUNNER'S and I'm convinced that finishing on the Wirral side is neither practical nor acceptable to the local residents of Wirral or Wirral Borough Council.
Thanks Alan, good points, I wuld guess a reverse wouldn't work either running past the iconic elements near the end has to be the aim.
Is there a compromise anywhere that could allow it to happen?
Appreciate the responses, clearly the money taken can leave room for a profit, but if it going to take a Great run (business style) takeover it will end up another aimless three mile walk from the start and will lose character.
This was my first marathon last year and I have no idea of the costs involved but didn't have any issue with the entry fee before the race and even less so after (if that makes sense).
The race was impeccably organised from start to finish and the quality of the medal and tee shirt more than merited the effort I had made to earn them!
Add to this the buzz I got hearing the Batala drums coming through the ground as I approached the exit of the Queensway Tunnel or looking up and seeing the Liverbirds to bring me home through the last mile (and I'm not even a scouser) and l I'd struggle to think of £50 that has bought me better value or greater satisfaction.
As for the locals, they're support and encouragement wassimply phenomonal. From the scouse twang cheering my name all the way round, to the guy who was blasting out a certain Spencer Davies Group track from his living room window on the approach to Sefton Park.
Then to round things off there were the three young lads who upon spotting the medal around my neck as I hobbled to the car park, stopped to shake my hand and congratulate me.
Again I have no idea of the factors that may (or may not) come into play when a council makes a decision like this but it strikes me that they have allowed to slip through their fingers a fantastic event that had the potential to become one of the great marathons in Europe and perhaps more significantly a fantastic advertsment for their City and the people who live there.
Alan, Thank you for your hard work and commitment, I hope in time you are able to re-discover your mojo and turn your talents to putting on another large scale marathon.
Run Liverpool Marathon - Run it, Lived it, Loved it!
Corporate running, spot a small business, watch it grow, take it, make it uniform, strip out local management = profit
I know a lot about that Sonae plant though work. People were killed working there, there were numorous fires, at least one of them major in addition to the emissions they were spewing out. The problems were a wee bit more serious than you are letting on. Thats assuming you know the full story, if you don't fair enough but if you do then you are being a bit disingenuous with your version of events.
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