New York Marathon 2009

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27/05/2009 at 08:34
Welcome legs in pain! From nowt to marathon in a few months is pretty ambitious but I'm sure you'll manage it.
27/05/2009 at 10:16

Hi NotCat

 Thanks for the info on what you do with gels, interested to see that you have them so frequently.Did wonder whether I should try this on my LSRs to see whether i can tolerate them.

27/05/2009 at 11:12

Hi Legs in Pain

Welcome to the mad world of marathon running. Are you doing it for charity or have you got in through the ballot or with 2:09?

27/05/2009 at 11:51

Hi Tricia

I have joined three colleagues at work running for charity and was really enjoying the training till I tripped over my shoelaces . Hope to get a fibreglass cast and resume training next week, if the Dr says its ok, or yes I will start to get worried.

Thanks for all the good information everyone. 

27/05/2009 at 11:55

 Welcome Legs in Pain. Good luck with the healing and training.

On gels: Despite not minding the taste of the SIS ones, I find gels make no difference to me whatsoever if I can get hold of bananas. Does anyone know what drink (gatorade?) they are likely to use in NY and if they will also provide fruit (like Berlin but not Boston did)?

On diet: More or less like Trin said. I basically eat all the carbs I can manage (a lot, believe me) from the Thursday, including (sorry Trin) a large meal late afternoon/early evening Saturday. I then usually have at least two bagels and two bananas on race day morning. At NY, it is possible I will eat even more than this on race day! (My body is very used to processing food and I don't suffer from stomach cramps.)

On the wall: In addition to diet, rest, etc., I think there is a strong effect of past running. Training for a second marathon builds on a base already established and the wall is further away. The more marathons you've done, the less one worries about the wall (assuming consistent training throughout). And, like NotCat, I think getting in as many long (18 mile-plus) runs you can, the less you will need to fear the wall (although I usually don't exceed about 50ish miles a week).

On travel: My NY running friend is giving very similar advice to Tortie. I am definitely leaning towards NJ-near-a-PATH station. Tortie, assuming we don't hate each other if we met up before the race, might us travelling to the start together be a possibility?

On coffee: I need one. Laters.

                                      Goal

  • Champagne          3:30
  • Chowster                4.00.01
  • Djwolf                      3:29
  • Gary Jones             2:44
  • Hudds Dave           3:50
  • Kiwidave                 3:29
  • L’ardvark                 3:05
  • Legs in Pain           5.30
  • NotCat                     3.10
  • Over the Hill            3.45
  • Steven S                 3:30
  • Tiptree                     3:45
  • Tony Hodge 6        3:30
  • Tortie T                    3:35
  • Tricia Hurst             3:59
  • Dave101                  3:50
  • 27/05/2009 at 12:18

    Definitely L’ardvark, that’d be nice. I don’t hate many people so we should be alright!

     Back in the day (’07) there were bagels available at the start in the waiting area along with tea/coffee and Gatorade. The Gatorade on course is orange (I think). In addition to the official drink stations there were several generous souls who’d set up their own aid station outside their houses. All along the course there were kids handing out sweets and you get gels at approx mile 18 from official gel type people.   At about mile 19 (whilst slightly hallucinating) I thought I saw a kid offering sponges so veered over to get one to cool down and was gutted to realise it was actually half a banana (which I hate). There were also several people handing out platters of sliced orange but again, these were unofficial refreshments so eat at your own risk.
    27/05/2009 at 12:19

    Hi there legs in pain, I hope you get back running soon.  

    I must admit not a big gel fan, tried a few types and use lucozade. Find all gels hard to take down and wash it down with drink.  I only used two in Dublin and took three with me in London(took 2). Tend to have one at half way and about 20. I take with me mini mars bars as well always worked for me.

     I think I remember a friend at running club said it was gatorade at New York, I think it comes in paper cups?. Makes a pain to drink from if it is.

    27/05/2009 at 12:33
    It does come in cups (as does the water) but if you squeeze the top you can stop it spilling everywhere and it makes a nice funnel for aiming it at your mouth.
    27/05/2009 at 13:13
    Should have mentioned in my earlier post but I booked the Novotel on Broadway (6 blocks off Times Sq) which is also one of the 2:09 Events base hotels! Just wondering was anyone else planning on staying there this time or have done in previous years? Been in NYC before but as it is my first time running I decided to stay somewhere central and within walking distance of pick-up points & the finish line!
    27/05/2009 at 17:35

    Tortie T -had to laugh when you said you were hallucinating , an article in this months R W mentioned someone who was hallucinating during a marathon and tried to ride on 2 men who were wearing a horse costume because he thought it was a real horse.

    it must have been hilarious watching them try to throw him off.

     Goal

  • Champagne          3:30
  • Chowster                3.59.59
  • Djwolf                      3:29
  • Gary Jones             2:44
  • Hudds Dave           3:50
  • Kiwidave                 3:29
  • L’ardvark                 3:05
  • Legs in Pain           5.30
  • NotCat                     3.10
  • Over the Hill            3.45
  • Steven S                 3:30
  • Tiptree                     3:45
  • Tony Hodge 6        3:30
  • Tortie T                    3:35
  • Tricia Hurst             3:59
  • Dave101                  3:50
  • Hand in pain            5.30
  • 27/05/2009 at 18:59
    chowster wrote (see)

    Tortie T -had to laugh when you said you were hallucinating , an article in this months R W mentioned someone who was hallucinating during a marathon and tried to ride on 2 men who were wearing a horse costume because he thought it was a real horse.

    it must have been hilarious watching them try to throw him off.

     Goal

  • Champagne          3:30
  • Chowster                3.59.59
  • Djwolf                      3:29
  • Gary Jones             2:44
  • Hudds Dave           3:50
  • Kiwidave                 3:29
  • L’ardvark                 3:05
  • Legs in Pain           5.30
  • NotCat                     3.10
  • Over the Hill            3.45
  • Steven S                 3:30
  • Tiptree                     3:45
  • Tony Hodge 6        3:30
  • Tortie T                    3:35
  • Tricia Hurst             3:59
  • Dave101                  3:50
  • Hand in pain            5.30

  • Chowster,

    Had to laugh - poor Legs in Pain she has had her name changed to Hands in Pain, sorry LiP - hope it doesn't still hurt too much. Think you are going to have to change your name

    27/05/2009 at 21:22

    'She'

    Doesn't hurt at all thats whats driving me nuts

    27/05/2009 at 23:16
    Legs in pain wrote (see)

    'She'

    Doesn't hurt at all thats whats driving me nuts


    Sorry for the presumption
    28/05/2009 at 08:30

    Hooray! I got a place in the NY Marathon.

    Sounds like it can be a bit of a stress getting to the start on the day. Is it not possible to stay pretty close and just walk to the start?

    28/05/2009 at 08:32
    Iain - there are probably hotels close by in Staten Island but it'd mean a pretty long slog to get back there after the race as it finishes in Manhattan.
    28/05/2009 at 11:33
    Why does this site keep refusing to post (or save) my messages????!!!!
    28/05/2009 at 11:36
    Should we add a 'hotel' (and maybe gender?!) column to the table below? Thoughts please.                                       Goal
    • Champagne          3:30
    • Chowster                3.59.59
    • Dave101                 3:50
    • Djwolf                      3:29
    • Gary Jones             2:44
    • Hudds Dave           3:50
    • Kiwidave                 3:29
    • Iain Harrison           
    • L’ardvark                 3:05
    • Legs in Pain           5.30
    • NotCat                     3.10
    • Over the Hill            3.45
    • Steven S                 3:30
    • Tiptree                     3:45
    • Tony Hodge 6        3:30
    • Tortie T                    3:35
    • Tricia Hurst             3:59
     
    28/05/2009 at 11:37

    Iain. Welcome. If you feel like it, it would be nice to hear a little about yourself. And if you would like to have a goal time included in the list below… The only way to be able to walk would be to stay on Staten Island near the start. Okay for that, but rubbish for all other traveling and for general quality of life during your stay. You could stay near the Ferry in Lower Manhattan. This would allow a walk to the ferry and use of the free bus to the start on the other side. It would also allow reasonable travel back after the race if you chose somewhere on an appropriate train line. The US RW NY thread speaks approvingly of someone staying in the Lower East Side. For more on hotels, see both that site and further back on this thread. And indeed my note to Tortie below.

    28/05/2009 at 11:38
    Chowster. I can see we're going to have to keep a close eye on you. The horse story made me laugh, though. Thanks for that.
    28/05/2009 at 11:39
    Tortie. My NY friend said Frank Sinatra is from NJ and Billy Joel represents NY. Contest? I think not. I am definitely veering left. I have forwarded a proposed itinerary to Ms. L'ardvark for checking and hopefully approval. Watch this space.
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