Paris Marathon 2013 - Page 11 - Events

Neil Belgium

09/08/2012 at 21:20

Dannirr: I have lap pace showing, and auto lap set to 1km. Like you said, I find if I have total average for the whole run displayed, its tempting to go fast in the warm up.
You can also use the lap button on the front to start/stop your intervals if they are not exactly 1km or mile (or if the recovery between intervals is shorter)

yer_maj

09/08/2012 at 21:35

I use pace and average pace - keeps me in check (I like to think)

That Corvette is porn indeed....dribble....

Orbutt

09/08/2012 at 21:37

Dannir - I've got a view on my Garmin that has both average and instant pace. I know that the instant can be a bit all over the place but the average can be a bit too slow at times. Happy medium us to use both of them

Dannirr

09/08/2012 at 22:34

Thanks all. I think I will set up a page with both average and instant pace. Then I just choose to believe the one I like! That's what we tend to do in medicine anyway - do a blood test - get a result we don't like so repeat the test - if the result is better we believe it and discard the first.

Tricky Dicky¹

10/08/2012 at 06:45

Danirr. What Neil says is by far the best method. Instant pace is unusable in any meaningful way. Simply have a data field showing average pace for the current lap and then set auto lap for whatever distance you prefer. I've experimented with 400m, 500m and 1km and the latter is my preference.

So in a marathon, I will see HR, distance, average pace and pace for current lap. So I can judge my workload, overall progress to target AND I get a reliable estimate of my current speed, but more smoothed off than if I were to be looking at the current pace field. Have been doing this for years. It works.

HS. No, the lump doesn't hurt as such, but I think the movement (flex) in my knee is severely restricted. It would hurt to bend my knee fully. So off to see the surgeon again on Monday. It's a great system here in Belgium that I can get to see someone like that so quickly, with no fancy queue jumping if you can wave cash around.

RR. Driving in Belgium is a bit mad. I mostly notice a complete lack of empathy for any other driver on the road. So you are in the outside lane and want to pull off at the next junction which is just 400m away? And all the lanes are crowded? No problem. Indicating (or not!) seems to establish right of way. Just pull across hard and the others have to look out or brake to avoid you. Ok, it might cause a 5 car pile up, but you just shaved 1.2 seconds off your journey time. You are a winner! I've only been shunted once in 12 years, so I'm doing ok. But as an ex-motorbike rider, you are always expecting every out there to be trying to kill you!

kaz1

10/08/2012 at 07:23

Thanks for the watch info!! Helpful. One more question.....does anybody use manual lap in marathon?? Just wondered from the point of accuracy, and what you do if you forget or miss a marker?? Or am I just being ignorant again?!?!

Intervals for me this morning, which after yesterdays 17.5 miles were mighty hard work.6 x 4 min with 1 min recoveries. Don't think I did too bad thou.

'OO'50

10/08/2012 at 07:34

I'll also be in Edinburgh Monday 13th night for the Military Tattoo- should be different...

helterskelter

10/08/2012 at 07:50

I'm off to aviemore for a weekend camping or rather, to be a sacrificial meal to the great god midge.

Running Rodent

10/08/2012 at 07:52

Kit update - I've been very pleased with the Adidas Adioses, but I didn't like the laces - felt like there was no 'give' in them and I couldn't get the tension right. So today I tried elastic laces. Seemed to do the trick, but the downside was that I could only get them in pink. So now, instead of luminous orange and green feet, I have luminous orange, green and pink feet

Edited: 10/08/2012 at 07:54

Running Rodent

10/08/2012 at 07:57

HS - make sure you pay a visit here. Mmmm...cake.
http://www.mountaincafe-aviemore.co.uk/

kaz1

10/08/2012 at 08:32

HS - Hope you have a nice weekend and the midges aren't too bad.

Radar Sal

10/08/2012 at 08:35

RR - your feet sound like an olympic venue.

I'm jealous of people being able to show 4 things on one garmin screen..although I could set mine to scrolling over 2 screens so would see 6... I have my training screen set to time, distance and lap pace. My racing screen is HR or time, average pace and lap pace. Dannirr, if you want to keep you pace constant but not have the instant (aka all over the place), set a small lap and have lap pace (as TD and NB say). Your watch will go beeparama with each lap but think that can be turned off too.

Kaz - I don't use the manual laps for races. It's great for interval or speed sessions but takes too much concentration in a race, the markers are often not in exactly the right place and yeah, you can miss them. I can see why you'd want to do it though. My garmin is definitely male and always says races are longer than they are measured as. or maybe I run in a zig-zag...

Eggyh73

10/08/2012 at 10:04

HS - Have a great weekend. The Aviemore midgies aren't too bad. It those flesh eating Sky ones you need to watch out for.

Kaz - I must admit I just tend to use the race clocks on course more often than not during marathons to keep track of my times. Amsterdam was great for that as they had a clock and timing mat every 5km. I just worked out what time I had to make the next 5km marker to make my target time.

ATM

10/08/2012 at 10:25

HS, did you do the ' Tron' light thingy in Edinburgh? If so, can we see photos? There are some great ones in the papers, today.

Dannirr

10/08/2012 at 11:22

Thanks all. I have always used average pace with auto lap at 1 mile. But with intervals where I need to vary the pace more intentionally, I thought Instant might be better as I would not have to be halfway through the interval before getting a reliable reading - but it seems better to stick with average and use a shorter auto lap.

Marathon Maus

10/08/2012 at 11:26

TD and IM2: I think the Aussie swimmers were rightfully taken down a peg or 2. Naturally, they are all now claiming that Olympic sports are insufficiently funded. Thankfully the commentators now have to show us other sports. If the could only show us ones where the Australians were doing well, there'd be about 15 mins of footage to play over and over again!

And on the contrary TD. The minute I can sort out career stuff, I'm outta here.

Kaz: I'm with RS. My watch doesn't have a lap feature when in HRM mode. So for Paris, I got an extra watch just to use for a lap function at each kilometer . It was a disaster. It's a decent watch, but the lapping worked by touching the face of the watch. I thought this would make it easier than a normal push button, but it was either too sensitive (in which case it lapped at 5 secs) or wouldn't respond to my finger. Or I missed the marker.

It's the one failing of the watch and I'm not really a serious enough runner to justify spending the money to upgrade.

Ohhh HS. Fiat 500s are supercool!

Marathon Maus

10/08/2012 at 11:30

And DLR: I have missed you so. Really, truly...

Orbutt

10/08/2012 at 11:43

Dannir - have you tried setting up Custom intervals on your Garmin?

Tricky has us doing Pyramids at interval pace, so I've set up the entire session in mine. So, for example, I've got it set to do 400, 600, 800, 1k, 1.2k, 1k, 800, 600, 400 with recovery in between.

If you stray out of the pace zone, the watch tells you off. I find it really useful but it can be a bit frustrating if you encounter a hill during an interval and the damn watch keeps telling you to speed up

Edited: 10/08/2012 at 11:43

Tricky Dicky¹

10/08/2012 at 12:57

Aah, those custom workouts are a joy huh Orbutt? It's easier to program them in Garmin Training Centre than on the watch, then you just upload the workout. There's also a plug-in on Sport Tracks that lets me do the same thing. However, I've gone off Custom Workouts now - prefer to judge stuff myself (longer/ shorter recoveries etc).

Eggy - I ran another 10K this lunchtime after your great effort a week and a bit ago. I managed to knock a whole 5 seconds off to clock a 43:59! I broke the 44min barrier! Mind you, it is 5-6C hotter today and it was quite an effort.

Orbutt

10/08/2012 at 13:22

Tricky - agreed. I use Garmin Connect to program them and then upload (learned the hard way). I also set mine to wait for a wait on the lap button before re-starting after recoveries - that way, I can take as long as I want