Paris Marathon 2014

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09/03/2014 at 09:19

My goals are: 

Gold - 4h29

Silver - 4h39

Bronze - Finishing before 4hr59 - or actually just finishing! LOL  

Edited: 09/03/2014 at 09:19
09/03/2014 at 10:09

Good long running people. Just one more week of push push push. And good long rowing too if that's what you are up to. I see on the BCRC Strava club that TheEngineer (formerly of this thread and known as SlowEngineer, managed to knock out an 18:38 at the Stoke-on-Trent ParkRun yesterday. Anyone else want to join - just send me a Private Message on this forum with your email address.

Sparky - I think you need to do a test run in ideal conditions, to simulate your marathon pace. The idea is that you can run a marathon just below the point where your use of energy becomes inefficient (slightly anaerobic). For most people, this is around 82-88% of their Maximum Heart Rate. Or, to use Eggy's sugestion, the point where you can be speaking in phrases but not sentences.

Run like that for a half marathon distance and be realistic about your pace, not pushing too hard. It should always feel comfortable speed. Not easy but not hard. Take your half marathon time, multiply by two, that is a reasonable estimate of what you can do in 4 weeks time.

I'm still in bed. A very late night. Might go running today. Maybe. Can't contemplate it yet.

09/03/2014 at 10:30

Hi guys, haven't had time to catch up with the thread but I had a problem yesterday and need advice!

So yesterday I went for a normal run. Nothing interesting or out of the ordinary, but as soon as I started, I was getting sharp pain in the lower back. Literally, the first steps. This seemed to be a shooting pain through my spine on impact of my feet hitting the ground.

It was greatly reduced by forefoot striking - but still very noticeable discomfort.

This morning I've been trying some stretches. When I extend my back by bending over, if I then lean my head forward so my chin touches my chest, I can feel the same pain.

Any ideas what this is, how to resolve it? 22m LSR to tackle today and conflicted between pushing through it or resting it.

09/03/2014 at 11:00

Matty - rest it.  At this point missing the run will not damage your training but doing it might eliminate your whole race.

09/03/2014 at 12:39
I've done 3 x fun 10k, 2 x HM and 1 marathon. Emmy is probably choking on a cake as that's less than her typical weekend. The 2nd half was today, 1 of my many defaults is pace so I picked someone and sat on their shoulder, when they faded so I picked someone else. I finished 10mins slower than last year but 6kg extra and lack of training. Caffeine gel sent me buzzing probably stopping me from sleeping now.
ATM
09/03/2014 at 12:42
Matty, get to a physio..Don t just bash on....You need to know what a wrong. Anti inflamms and specific exercises might be the way forward. It s amazing what rest, pain relief and targetted moves . It will cost...but will be worth it. And as Dan says, better slightly undertrained than slightly injured, on the Start.
ATM
09/03/2014 at 15:27

Matty, am I imagining things or are you Cardiff based?  If so I can recommend some good people.  They keep this creaky old show on the road, anyway

09/03/2014 at 15:56

Radar Sal, brick session was, as the French would say terrible. Nothing can match the running but a great confidence boost to know that I could do 3 hrs of that. Felt I'd been in the gym forever.

Why does rowing take up so few calories when it's so bloody knackering?

Good luck with the physio, Matty.

09/03/2014 at 16:57
Just in from a 48 mile cycle down the lovely ayrshire coast and back.Took your advice Tricky Dicky and really put some effort into it.Im defo knackered.

48miles in 3:48 average HR 160bpm which is 80% of my max running HR.The stats from the way out more or less mirror my stats from way back,only difference was I was 90 secs slower on way back tho I was into breeze on way out.

Overall I'm very happy with my fitness just need to hope my strengthening program is helping my it band issues,I'll find out next weekend.
09/03/2014 at 17:10

Well done everyone out today, 

I completed in Ashby 20 and well pleased with my 2.56.41 which is 5 mins quicker than 2 weeks ago and on a hilly course Great race and well organised recommend as warm up to spring marathon. 

I think somewhere between 3.45 and 3.59 is still on for Paris ! 

a week of less mileage then skiing for a week  

09/03/2014 at 17:17

Well I chanced it anyway. If anything, just to see if it was any better since yesterday, and to see if I could further identify the problem.

It was all absolutely fine running uphill. Level and downhill was quite sore. But as the run went on things subsided and by the end it was barely even there. Its definitely lower, lower back. Immediately above the glutes, very central, either side of the spine.

My missus has firmly slapped me on the wrist though and I will be making an appointment with a physio or sports masseuse tomorrow, otherwise I'll have more problems than a sore back!!

Yer_maj, not Cardiff based any more. The missus and I studied there but back in somersetshire now.

09/03/2014 at 17:33
Hatter: well done,you are in a great position to make your target time considering that's your 20 mile time after weeks of heavy training
09/03/2014 at 17:40

Yer_Maj Matty is a cyder drinkurr from Yeovil my luvely. Matty - a sudden onset of pain like that would have me heading to an osteopath to check alignment issues.

Nice ride Jokeybhoy and a good result in your 20miler too Hatter88. Good work!

Well, I caved in today. I was going to do a 32km run but just couldn't face another lap of an uber crowded parc. The usually placid TinkerBEL had this wild-look in her eyes that she was going to mow someone down on her bike, with people strewn all over the pathways, getting in the way.

Anyway, I did 26kms. My running data shows my previous peak fatigue was 154 points back when I PBd in Paris 2012. Today I hit 175 points. I am just shattered. But, on the plus side, my fitness score previously peaked at 124 for Paris 2012 and today I hit a new record of 125 (All TRIMP measurements for the geeky). So now I am mainly eating cheese and making animal noises from the sofa. A bit like a Water Buffalo at feed time maybe...

09/03/2014 at 17:41

Matty -  could it be the Sciatic nerve? When you stretch, does the pain extend into your hamstrings? You did say they were causing you problems, it could be all part of the same thing. 

09/03/2014 at 17:53

+1 for osteopath.  Get yourself rotated, what could possibly go wrong?

Lovely 17 mile cycle with Herr Maj this orning.  I got a big wild and buggy eyed with all the blasted park dwellers too....the slightest hint of sun and out they all come....

09/03/2014 at 17:53

Thanks jokeybhoy fingers crossed you will still make the start line 

09/03/2014 at 18:13

I haven't done that many runs at MP so not sure how close I am to my targets but they are: 

Gold - 3:05

Silver - 3:13

Bronze - 3:25

PB is 3:25:20

09/03/2014 at 18:26

First ever marathon, training has gone well so far, targets are (to enjoy it!):

Gold - 3:20

Silver - 3:25

Bronze - 3:30

 

09/03/2014 at 18:39

Zeenawarrior - yeah, it's a bit of a head phuck but if you survive that it's all good!  ;)

Matty - how are you abs? Strong core supports your back bit does sound like tightness as eased during run. Get your wife to put an elbow or two in there.

I only did 7km today but I'm in taper so meh bring on the carb loading.

09/03/2014 at 19:36
Finchley 20 mile race this morning
In the company of Le jimbob, well that was the plan anyway
Had to catch two trains from my base in London to the race which I think was in Devon or Cornwall , it was pretty far out from That There London
I missed the connections by seconds on both occasions , the train was then held up for five mins outside Ruislip
Got off the train at 8:45 for a 9:00 start which was bad considering it was another two miles to the start line
So first two miles were at 8:00 min pace even before the race started , missed the start by two mins , had to catch everyone up ,dropped one of my gels , the heat was horrendous , the Marshall's were superb though
I struggled round picking off some runners before getting lapped on the second lap ( it's four 5 mile laps )
The first 17 miles were at a sub four pace
Then struggled on the final three until Jimbob phoned me to say he had a pint of beer for me at the finish line , that last mile dragged in but true to his word Jim had a beer in his hand which he then refused to give me saying I needed a fresh one !!!
There were tears in my eyes when he walked away , I would have drank anything by that stage , the beer was delivered and drunk in fifteen secs
Then back to his gaff for salted chips ( god they hit the spot ) and pizza
Final result , under three hours , potential sunstroke , and had the nicest beer and chips in years
Thanks for everything Jim , your a star
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