Snowdonia Marathon 2009

Cameraderie Rules! SNOD

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25/10/2009 at 23:55
Tom!! Yes and no!! How did you get on?
26/10/2009 at 00:07

I arrived on Friday in time to get my tent up at jason's campsite half way up the mountain and then go for a walk. Above the campsite was an easy route up to Hebron station on the Snowdon railway, and then it was a matter of crossing the Llanberis path and going across country up to Derlwyn (1360') and then following a fence line down a dip and up to a nameless, jagged peak (about 1840').   I was already thinking this wouldn't really be the easiest way to the race start in the morning. 

I hopped over the fence right on the edge of the cliff.  From this vantage point was my planned descent directly down to the race start.   Far, far below I could see the start gantry and row of portaloos.  Looking straight across to Elidwr Fawr, Y Garn, and the Glyderau made me feel dizzy from my precarious position.  The panaroma was stunning.  I could see why there was a fence there - to stop sheep coming to a sad end.  However down I felt I had to go.

I scuttled around the top, looking for the best route down and trying to bottle up the courage to start the descent.  I'm no climber, nor even scrambler, and the first few tens of feet were difficult.   The holds were far apart and it was all loose moss and greasy rock. It got less craggy after a bit and just a relentless steep descent down a gully. The best approach I found was to go down backwards with my face to the ground and looking down from time to time to check there weren't any sudden drops over cliffs, lowering myself down.  It was mainly moss, grass, and bracken, but extremely steep.

It took ages and ages - in fact the whole descent took 40 minutes and I could only turn round and "run" for the last 100 yards or so before the start gantry.  I had been intending to use this route as a heroic arrival the next morning.  Instead I got to the track trembling with the shock of my exposed position and fatigue, and in gathering darkness.

I had to make a detour to the Vaynol Arms for a restorative pint of Guinness before walking back to Llanberis along the road.  In the pub I was talking to some climbers who happened to be in there and they were somewhat stunned at my choice of route. 

I registered on the way back and was happy to get back to my tent and just think about running a marathon instead.

[I'm off to St.Ives for a short break later today - won't be able to post again until Wednesday night.  Ta, ta, for now.]

26/10/2009 at 00:09

Sorry, jason, not going to argue the point.  Can't state it much more clearly than I have already.

'Night, 'night.

26/10/2009 at 00:34
What a memorable 24 hours for all sorts of reasons!

First off, after a mad 140-mile drive I reached Pen-y-Pass hostel five minutes before they locked the main door. Then it was off to the sweltering but awesome Pen-y-Grwyd Hotel for a swift pint. Back at the hostel I scoffed yet more pasta on me tod in the dining room at midnight. Finally, I retired to the benighted dorm, quietly stashed my stuff and was about to climb into my bunk (which I'd previously chosen and made up) only to discover some other bugger was sleeping in it!

The next morning the weather was pretty grim at the top of the pass but not too windy, and even the mountain forecast in the hostel was predicting better weather from late morning. After a large bowl of porridge, I headed down to Llanberis at 9am, where the wind and rain was worse than higher up the mountains!

I finally pegged it to the Electric Mountain centre at about 9.45, getting drenched in the process, and spent five minutes wondering why so many people - myself included - were daft enough to undertake such things! Out I went into the breach and spent 45 minutes in the horrendous weather waiting for the bus. I've never been to cold and wet in my life! I couldn't stop shivering until the race actually started - it was so wet that my waterproof Polar watch gave up the ghost and I couldn't set the timer going!

The marathon itself was great! I've done four others, all of them scenically attractive in their own right, and this was right up there with them. The run up Llanberis Pass was really good; thunderous rivers, howling winds and needle-like rain whipping around - it was almost elemental!

I enjoyed the long drop and wonderful autumnal scenery down past Bryn Gwynant to Beddgelert. At the halfway point I was on around 1h 47m. Climbing back up and over toward Rhyd Ddu, the surrounding landscape took on a more desolate nature. I was steadily plodding away and expecting the hill at Waunfawr to kick in at 20 miles, but it stayed fairly level to about the 21m marker.

I was really pleased with the my last five miles. I managed to keep running - albeit at a reduced pace - all the way up Waunfawr and, once the slippery upper section of the descent was out of the way, I went almost full tilt down the hill to Llanberis. I must have passed around 40-50 people in the last few miles!

I crossed the line in just over 3h 43m and got a marathon PB in the process, by less than two minutes!

I think I may well be back for SNOD 2010
26/10/2009 at 04:05

chips or guns?

chips or guns?

chips please

26/10/2009 at 07:32

Ketchup CD? 

Well my garmin said 4.21 (but I had it on auto pause)....which means I spent 4 minutes drinking my cup of tea and not running the race....so I'm gonna use that time

I think we should use whatever time makes us feel happy....unless of course you're building a serious running log to use officially then I think you should use both and probably skip the tea.  Have a lovely trip to St Ives T Rex.

Glyd...how anyone ran fast down that descent to Llanberis I will never know....I just about managed a stilted bounce but it was so wet and slippery by the time I got there...and the pain in my left knee was just too much...  Once on the flat though I managed to pick up my pace just nicely.

But the views were lovely....can't imagaine looking out of my window and seeing a mountain, and the lakes so pretty...

26/10/2009 at 08:31

Gun or Chip? being at the back it's no bother to me! Frankly the only people that really need to worry about a race cv are elites - I doubt UKathletics are going to lose sleep over my 5hr SNOD! Waht we don't really need is bad feeling and elbows even more on the start lines than we have already.

Trex - you are one of those climbers/walkers the mountain rescue are always on about!

Glyd - so did she apologise for getting in your bed?The secenry was fantastic wasn't it - but by that last hill coming upto the slate quarry and forestry working I had had enough to be honest. I did a 34 mile ultra that ended in 37'5 miles as we got lost and it was in the pouring rain , but even then we didn't get the *WTF are we doing here - not joking* thing we had up there.

Chris oco - love the little video - what we need is someone to youtube the s4c footage so we can take our time to see it, S4c watch agasin will have a time limit.

FF - yopu stopped but still mananged to get a cracking time - like glyd I was great down the hill but I'd lost a lot of time early on - I can only mabnaged 4:25 there abouts on the flat most days , it was always going to take 4;50 - 5:00 forme. That could be a quality sub 4 on the flat!

26/10/2009 at 08:47

Jason d-

Ha ha! well I thought there was a slight resemblance!

 Well, I got 3hr23. Really pleased as I was basing it on getting 3hr34 in the London Marathon 2 years ago, which by comparison seemed a real doddle. I'm going to look into the Brighton Marathon today as I am now keen to know whether that time would translate to a 3hr10 on a flatter course. Think I may be having delusions though!

 

26/10/2009 at 08:50
love your tea stop ff..you'll make a cracking ultra runner...at some of them there's a full buffet waiting for you at the checkpoint
26/10/2009 at 09:09

Hi everyone

 What an amazing marathon , at the end I told my family never again but by sunday morning I'd changed my mind. I managed to beat my pb by 10 sec,  3.30.38 which I never thought I'd get close to at the 22 mile point when there was the view of the unrelenting climb! I thought the climb was bad but my legs have never hurt so much going down hill.The support was fantastic all the way round. My only gripe being the lack of organisation at the start.

Well done everyone, see you next year!

26/10/2009 at 09:19
I say never ever again every year, but by this time next month I will have entered again...............its just that sort of race. I need to keep going back because I want a sub 3hrs ( next year John ? ) Just went for it this year, wanted to see how long I could last it out, pleased with how far I managed just need to train more on the hills for next year.
26/10/2009 at 09:20

CD.... you're a terrible influence... But couldn't help thinking about Marlborough Downs 33 miler and thinking whats another 6 miles....lol!  Maybe...if stopping for tea and cake is allowed

Chris...loved your youtube video!

Right...need to get moving today....still walking like I've had a night of passion with the local rugby club and coming down the stairs sideways....hoping a gentle bike ride may help.

26/10/2009 at 09:28

I'll be emailing you in due course re next year sm!! (You were looking very good on the S4C clips last night!)

26/10/2009 at 09:33

Mr Rex you As has been said - most people are good natured/mannered enough to let faster people near the start-line and most people shuffle up to the start because they don't want to push the people in front. The time that matters is start-line to finish-line - The same for all competitors 26.2. The gun time may be official - but it's only  practical as a  measuring device for those few who start on the startline. I'll take my sub 3hr 50min because that's how long it took me to do the distance. I sense you're enjoying the reaction though!

Re organisation - if people were not such idiots! - bringing their cars anywhere near the start area is silly - that's why people ended up standing at bus stops in the rain - mind you it's an easy walk to the start from town - it's greener and you get a nice warm up - there's no need for buses really.The organisers and 'fans'were superb.

26/10/2009 at 09:49

Highlights on S4C : link here. But this will only last a few days. Make the most of it-

http://www.s4c.co.uk/clic/e_level2.shtml?programme_id=358322655

26/10/2009 at 09:59

Really loved this race & the supporters were really great; as were the marshals at the drinks stations too

Still a little bummed about my time - 4.34 ...34 mins slower than Loch Ness 3weeks ago & nearly 30 mins slower than Anglesey. Still, I really think without all the personal drama, next year I say: Bring it on!

I reaaaalllyyyy loved the downhill off-road bit back to Llanberis - really did wake me up, with dodging slippery bits & rocks - almost felt energetic haha.

26/10/2009 at 10:31

Hey all!

Hope you've all had a great race! 

 It was my first marathon and I'm very pleased - did far better than I'd hoped, finishing around 3:32. 

Does anyone know where to find official results? Werent they supposed to be on the site by sunday night? I can't find them..

Cheers! 

26/10/2009 at 10:39

http://www.tdl.ltd.uk/results.php?checked=1&race_id=272&submit_x=140

Try this Terence, if it doesn't work (I have a problem with links) it is from the previous page.

 

26/10/2009 at 10:56

Ah, brilliant. Thanks Gary!

Looking forward to when they post the photos now.. 

26/10/2009 at 10:56
when do entries open for next year?
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