Cameraderie Rules! SNOD
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ff - and there sz saying he never saw you that evening
Well, what an eventful Saturday! I too had the deep cold set shivers waiting for the bus for 45 minutes but warmed within the first mile.
Congrats to all you sub 04:00 people - really well done
I started reasonably well - made the half way by about 01:53 and was hoping for a 04:10 allowing for Waun Fawr tab walk....
I met with TomS around 15-16 miles and we had a chat, but I was fighting terrible cramps in my "bad" leg... and it struck with a vengeance... I ended up walking on and off for ages to relieve the pain.... I made 04:26 cramp was my own fault....
Previous maras this year I've practised copious SIS electrolyte drinking for around 36hrs before the day - achieved a couple of sub 4's and 04:06 in Anglesey so was hoping for a near 4 with this my fave run of the year.... but I worked late every day up to travelling on Friday and then rushed to see family and hardly drank 2 bottles...
Worse part is my leg is now damaged and my tibia is likely to be stress fractured (I tried to make up time downhill into Llanberis and jarred/hammered my leg..... xray this afternoon will tell all - so here's hoping for a bruised diagnosis not a fracture!
Well done everyone - and yep, just going to register again
saturday was my first marathon, absolutely loved it, including the weather! Finished in 4:31:16 so mega happy with that too
Loving reading everyone's reports and starting to feel a little more positive about Saturday's race. When I ran this two year's ago, I was on a complete high when I finished ... this year, although my finish time was only 8 seconds (I repeat, 8 seconds!!) slower than last time, mentally I felt really down. I struggled with "my head" this time and also got a recurring stitch, which meant I had to keep walking ... have been getting stitches a lot recently on long runs and someone on Saturday suggested it could be down to dehydration ... going to have a rethink on nutrition/hydration on longer runs, so any advice from the seasoned runners on here would be much appreciated.
On Saturday, I vowed never to run this race again, but today I'm feeling much more positive and will enter again and have another go (third time lucky).
FF - have no experience of spending a night with a rugby team , but can relate to your DOMS!! Starting to wish I lived in a bungalow!!!
Porridge 2 and a half hours prior to race two cups of tea. 1 litre of water prior to the start. Drank only 1 cup of water from each station walking to drink. 1x SIS gel12 mins before Beddgelert 13m @ 1hr 52min 1x Zip Vit Caffeine Gel (Came in the goody bag) 12mins from Waunfawr - 1hr 57mins for second half - Next year I'll run all of the hill and balance that split up.
Along with not carrying liquid, I decided to not wear a nylon windproof opting for club vest over a long sleeved nylon top - I'm convinced this approach contributed to PB time.
SZ - top result
I agree with your approach - I will follow that in December (pending xray results later) - thanks for the positive info
I'm in oh yes.
Who's starting the new thread?
Moose - if you'd got a stress fracture you'd know about it without Xrays , you'd be in excruciating agony.
Still dreaming - I know the feeling from saturday, I felt bad, not just physically but mentally and I couldn't figure out why, when I saw you for a moment at the end I could see in your face the reflection of my own thoughts. I just wanted to get away from there - I'm reminded of the accounts of the crash of the R101 airship in the 30's " just run from that awful place and don't look back!"
But today I feel better - yesterday I could have easily become an axe murderer , I had NO patience at all going door to door delivering my stuff , I just wanted to go to bed. Toady though achey I feel much better and I think I'll do Flying Fox 10 on sunday.
Love the S4C coverage , pity I don't speak Phlegm , you can't even guess at the words , I could manage if it was french or german . The coverage is superb given the comditions - can't see myself on it yet but I might get on at the end!
Wow, so much catching up to do here again. It was great to meet T Rex, Tom S & Steve Zodiac again, and Ru, Daymion (& reydon runner?) for the first time, and of course Fat Fyes in Pete's Eats (sorry you didn't make it to the Padarn Lake Hotel afterwards, FF).
In the week leading up to SNOD my legs were feeling heavy and laboured on the runs into work, so much so that I cycled in on Thursday instead. (OK, I know smashing a 50-mile trail PB on the previous weekend isn't the best taper for a road marathon, but the opprtunity was there and it had to be siezed.) By Friday my legs felt just about normal and 'ready to do their thing' again at the weekend.
The rain before the start didn't bother me too much because I walked to the start, which just about kept me warm. (I recommend doing this and not bothering with the bus.) Once in the starting pack there is just enough shelter and warmth from the surrounding bodies to keep the worst of the shivers at bay until the start.
Once we set off I lost pacer T Rex immediately, before we got out onto the road. He was behind somewhere. I just decided to run my own race like I always do. T Rex overtook me some way down the first descent. I asked him how his 4-hr pacing was going (I always like to look on the positive side and fondly imagined he might have been 5 minutes ahead of schedule). When he said he was 1 minute down I knew a 4-hr finish was beyond me; my hip flexors had already stiffened and I was pushing hard through the discomfort. I told him a 4-hr was beyond me this year as he slowly pulled away.
I passed the halfway point in 4:02. "I wonder if I can run a negative split and still get close to 4 hours?" I thought to myself. "Not unless a miracle happens" came the quick subconscious answer. "I've never run negative splits in my life, but considering I set off slower, I'll give it a damn good try." I ran more of the race than I have ever run before, including most (but not quite all) of the ascent of Waunfawr, but my time of 4:15 turned out to be a personal worst for this event (4:13 in 2006, 4:06 in 2007 and 4:00 in 2008).
I'm not at all disappointed. I had a fantastic day (and evening knocking back the wine until midnight with T Rex and Steve Zodiac). I WILL be back next year (probably a week after having run the Round Rotherham again). I love this event; it's probably the least tortuous road race there is.
Amazingly my legs have been as right as rain since - no aches or pains. I reckon I'm perfectly trained up now to run a marathon next weekend.
Fat Fyes, you definitely have to do an ultra. You sound like a perfect candidate. Marlborough Downs 33 is a lovely one to cut your teeth on.
Lizogical, I'm impressed by your great spirit. Well done.
MH - instead of trying to guess the words, you could have done what I resorted to --- putting the English subtitles on!!! You can try again, the Radio Times says the race is shown at about 11.30 tonight on S4C Digital ( if you can find it!!)
I thought I ached yesterday, but I am sooo much stiffer today!!
Well thats great I'm on TV - collapsing and lunging for support right on the finish line as the bloke is interviewing a woman. I never saw that camera there. I damn near went down - 45:49 onwards , bald bloke with screwed up face falling behind the woman being interviewed.
Typical - my one claim to fame! - I've done loads of marathons and ultras where I've come over the line laughing!
How can I get the subtitles when viewed online?
Hi Mike Hawes
Yep - you are more than likely correct - the pain is ok while sat down - but weight on my leg is excruciating - my problem is the amount of metalwork in my leg, if I knock it it aches for a couple of days and there's swelling.... so fingers crossed its just angry with being bashed down hill to the finish!
I just don't want to have messed up the great work done by the ortho surgeons - top job by the saw bones dept - it'd be negligent of me to ruin that repair
Where's that 2010 SNOD thread???? I'm booked in
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