The Trionium Picnic Marathon

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02/06/2012 at 19:18

The run-through today revealed the full extent of this year's Picnic.... it will be approximately 29 miles in length, with an estimated 7000 feet of ascent and descent.

 

So, good luck everyone... it all about finishing!

03/06/2012 at 09:22

Recalculating... it will be closer to 30 miles than 29.

03/06/2012 at 13:47

 Great!! Maybe you should extend the 7hr course limit Doc Rob, we'll be there all night at this rate!!!

09/06/2012 at 21:43

South Downs done today. No heroics for a sensible 04:35. So I hope I'll be OK for the cut-off's....but..... wishing you'd lie to us Dr Robert about the distance and make it nearer to 29 again?!

 

10/06/2012 at 14:21

Doc Rob,  If one decides they would like to do just the half distance Midsummer Munro - Do we need to tell you at the beginning so taht we start at 4pm or can we start at 2pm with the marathon and see how we feel at the half way point and pull out then if we wish?

 

10/06/2012 at 21:01

Anyone can make the sensible decision at any time to finish at the first lap of the Picnic (which will be equal in length to the Midsummer Munro) - you will get the medal for the Munro (but the t-shirt for the Picnic - your name is on it, after all). However, the second lap of the Picnic is shorter than the first by about 2 miles or 25 minutes.... so if you've done the first lap, the second will be a..... 

I do expect a higher drop out rate than normal this year... but that might be two or three, not many more: you have to be hard as nails to even start this race.... 

There will be no shame in collecting the medal for the Munro... it will also be a toughie!

11/06/2012 at 00:37

Hi Doc, what do you expect the winning time to roughly be this year considering last years was under 4 hours?

11/06/2012 at 16:23

The main extra distance is 'at the start' (a bizzarre notion, I know, but you'll see what I mean on the day of the race). I reckon that the winning time will be about 30 minutes slower this year, ie around 4:30.

12/06/2012 at 10:48

Slightly scared about this 30 mile business  . So does it mean we have 3hrs to make the 16 mile munro cut-off ? thats gonna be tight !

12/06/2012 at 11:10

Good point! What are the various time/distance cut-offs for this beast, Doc Rob?

12/06/2012 at 12:50

The usual cut-off at the half way point is 3 hours. The cut-off this year will be htree and a half hours (ie 5.30pm). If you are not back at the half way point by 5.30pm, you will have no chance of completing the course within 7 hours (and probably even 8 hours) which is when it gets dark. But if you have taken 3.30 to do the first half, you might reasonably call it a day anyway and take the medal for the half!

There are no other cut-off times this year - only for the half-Picnic distance.

12/06/2012 at 13:52

That sounds very fair to me - see you at 2 on June 23! Come on!!

13/06/2012 at 08:54
Not sure if I'm looking forward to this or not, but I have done my two training runs, the Three Forts and South Downs Marathons and I 'm now as ready as I will ever be.
Edited: 13/06/2012 at 08:55
13/06/2012 at 18:05

Dr Rob .... I "ran" last year and managed to get the the half in 3 hours and finished in 6:10 ..... seems tight to squeeze in another 3 miles in 30 mins to duck under the 3:30 cutoff [which I fully agree with for everyones sake] ....... do I need to readjust my goals?!

QB
13/06/2012 at 18:36

I think we're all adjusting our goals right now based on recent info! I was concerned enough about the usual course before hearing of just how much extra miles and hills we are getting for our money in this special running!

I recently plodded out an undulating marathon in a bit under 4, so was looking at 6 but now would be happy to survive and finish in 7...

13/06/2012 at 18:45

Dead right - it's all about finishing this killer Picnic, never mind times and positions - let's hope we all get our just desserts!!! 

15/06/2012 at 20:13

If you got to the half within three hours, you will duck in under 3:30 this year, don't worry. The second 'half' is shorter than the first half.... don't worry, just 'enjoy'!

16/06/2012 at 14:09
Comforting words Dr. Rob. I'm gonna set my garmin to 13.5 minute miles and heed your advice that this course 'cannot be run'; plod the downhills, crawl the ascents and pray at the bottom of the stairs. Easy.

When I plead to dropout at halfway please someone just slap me.
16/06/2012 at 14:35
I did the South Downs Marathon last week, with 5700ft of climbing, in 3:43.
Is the The Picnic a lot tougher, at 7000ft?
17/06/2012 at 21:58

The Picnic has steps - try running them

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