Trimpell 20

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29/12/2011 at 09:49

Anyone doing this again this year?

I thought it was great VLM training last year but a tad expensive. Thoughts?

06/02/2012 at 08:50
I am concerned that this race did not count for UK rankings last year as (a) it was short, (b) did not have a UKA licence and (c) did not have a certificate of course accuracy.  Having contacted Power of 10 this morning they are not aware of any change to this situation.  Does anyone know if this is the case or has more certification been put in place?
06/02/2012 at 09:18
Barnsley Runner

I've asked Billy about your post and
1) the course is to be re measured next week (says it was spot on last year)
2) will have a permit with Trail RA
3) Has chip timing this year
06/02/2012 at 10:00

Thanks Stephen

So I assume from your answers that

a.  It does not have a certificate of course accuracy.  The organiser saying it was `spot on' is different to it having a certificate of accuracy from a qualified course measurer.  It may well be short, accurate or long, but without the certificate we have no empirical, official evidence of this.

b.  It will not have a UKA permit, so will not count for Power of 10 rankings, as last year

Is that correct?

06/02/2012 at 12:12
a) I've answered
B) Can a TRA permit be include in power 0f 10 (waiting for UKa to gat back to me)
06/02/2012 at 13:32

I've been on contact with Po10 and yes they do allow TRA permitted races on the rankings.

What is the TRA permit number for this race?

06/02/2012 at 15:49
Thanks Barnsley runner

You must have a direct line!
06/02/2012 at 17:01

Yes, it's because my wife wants to run a good 20m time to place highly in the rankings for her age category.  She would not want to run a race which then does not count on Pof10, as this one did not last year.

Is Billy going to get a certificate of accuracy after next week's remeasuring, as the course does not yet appear on the list of officially measured courses for the area?

06/02/2012 at 18:07
YES
06/02/2012 at 18:49
This all seems far too technical for me. I'll just be happy to get round..!
06/02/2012 at 20:26

If I could just quote from the entry form:

“Trimpell 20 – The Pre-London Road Race”.

 

Why then is the organiser applying for a Trail Running permit/licence?

Is it a road race or a trail race?

08/02/2012 at 06:45

I've done a bit of reading around and the TRA are authorised to issue permits on behalf of UKA.  They have a 34-page guide available to download for anyone planning a trail race.

Paragraph 41 states:-

Unless a qualified measurer using a Jones counter has measured the course the distance

should be described as "approximate". Climbs can be calculated by counting the contours

on as maps.

Stephen - I take it that this was the case with last year's race and that the remeasurement you said was happening will be taking place with the Jones counter, as there is no mention of `approximate' on the entry form.

Link to the booklet:- http://www.tra-uk.org/organising_trail_races.php 

08/02/2012 at 07:45
Many Thanks for info

I'm told it will have certificate when finished

08/02/2012 at 16:46
Is this a good 20 before London?
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10/02/2012 at 13:47
I would say its perfect for london. This will be my third time.Its very flat and well organised.
12/02/2012 at 18:01

Hi,

I was considering this, have fancied for the last few years but never got round to entering.  Please don't jump down my throat, but can I ask if ipods (used with care) are permitted?  I know they won't be encouraged etc, but I wouldn't want to be disqualified or cause a problem.  That's why I ask now!

 Thanks

RP

12/02/2012 at 18:17
Considering that most of the race in on a 2-way cycle track it really depends on whether you want to become a nuisance or not?
12/02/2012 at 18:19
Aah but it's not a road race so you're not in danger from traffic.  I know UKA permitted races do not allow ipods these days.  Not sure where the TRA stands on such issues.
15/02/2012 at 13:11

I did this race last year and was hacked off to say the least when the results did not go on Power of Ten because the organiser hadnt applied for a race license.  I would have been in the top ten in my age category in 2011 if they had . Even more annoying for another lady in my club as she would have been No 1 LV45 at the time.

It  is a very pleasant ,flat mostly traffic free course so would be a good one for Barnsley Runners' wife to go for quick time - if the organiser does things right this year and gets the licence.

15/02/2012 at 21:43

SW - it's a bit too risky to fork out all that money and drive all that way after last year.  There's a few from our club going and we had a `lively' discussion about whether it should count for club ranking and record purposes.

I think one issue with getting a licence is then the race organiser has to pay UKA for that licence on a sliding scale depending on how many runners there are.  Perhaps a TRA licence does not have this stipulation?

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