Tywyn Race the Train 14.3

How tough is this race??

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08/04/2006 at 18:19
Now I'm getting a bit scared about this one! My 30th birthday is on the Sunday and I will not be happy if I don't beat this train! Looks like some serious hill work could be in order in the next 3 months... A friend told me it was tougher than running a marathon - which sounds scary.

1hr 47 is the time they state on their webpage as the time the train takes - can anyone explain why the run back is so much harder than going?? Naievly I'd have thought that running inland from the coast would be harder than coming back... How fast a half marathon time do you need in order to stand a chance of beating it??



08/04/2006 at 18:34

http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/forum/forummessages.asp?EN=29547&URN=6&UTN=66283&Events_Last=1&V=6&SP=

Fair to moderate. You'll get round and the trick is to be as fast as you can to the turn as most of the second half is on sheep tracks where you can't overtake.

A great day out.
08/04/2006 at 18:36
I'm in and hoping to make a long weekend of it camping with kids :-)
08/04/2006 at 18:39

I've entered already. Last year I stayed in Aberystwth but this year hopefully closer to the event.

Clear head today Caz ;-)
08/04/2006 at 21:37
Yes thank you WA :-) I was very reserved, as always :-)

Tougher than a mara Boycie says, can you confirm this WA!?!!?
08/04/2006 at 21:41

Absolutely Caz :-) Much tougher race !!!

Oh, and I know of no-one more reserved in temperance than you ;-)
09/04/2006 at 15:20
Hi WA - Running Caz here. Really!?!? surely not tougher than rhyadar!?!?! It's only a 14M and not as hilly. Just lie to me if it is tougher as I'll prob change my mind :-)

Did the LAST LONG RUN today by the way :-) Did 18M this a.m (just as the schedule says :-) Was pleased with how it went considering how ill I am. Took 2:40 and am glad to have the last one done and dusted :-)

...... now about to celebrate. Where are those bottles of cider ........ :-)
09/04/2006 at 16:00

Yes Caz, it is tougher. Much harder.

Right, must dash, it's Elvis's shift in the chip shop and he does a cracking pork pie.
09/04/2006 at 16:26

Oh, and the distance is more like 15.7
09/04/2006 at 16:32
WA - beef curry a-la-nibbs style for me mate. Mmmm, chips :-)

Where's Boycie gone from the top of here? His posting has totally disappeared ... or have I had too much cider already!?!!?

You're frightening me now Alex!! How about tougher than the Wyre Forest Half Mara in sweltering heat? Surely not!!
09/04/2006 at 16:37

No, it is no more tougher than Rhayader or the Wyre Forest than Elvis working in my chip shop. Prob less hilly than Wyre Forest. It is about 8 miles to the turn and to beat the train you have to 7mm it to the turn. Hills are mostly on the way back.

Heat is the main problem, not good news for either of us Caz.
09/04/2006 at 16:43
Heat!! August!! It aint looking good you're right there WA. But I shall go and enjoy it. Could do with taking my time as it'll be a rare break from the kids ;-) Sooo....... we running together mate? or shall we leave it as meet accidently when the sun gets to much? :-)
09/04/2006 at 16:47

I'm happy to have a crack at it with you Caz, it'll be good and as you say we always expire in the heat at the same point. It was bloody boiling last year. Factor 50 here I come.
Blisters    pirate
13/04/2006 at 21:35
STOP IT YOU GUYS!

Caz, they are all wind up merchants, so beware. Look mate, it's just like a half marathon with a bit of a warm up added in. Flat as a pancake too, after all, it's by the seaside. Oh shoot. My wooden nose has hit the PC screen.

Ok. Serious head on.

It's not a flat HM, but it's not a marathon either. If you train up to 20 miles, then you'll have a good tank full. The dividends from hill work will be well and truly repaid. Relevant race times? My HM PB from March last year was 1:26:30, with a marathon (FLM) of 3:06.

The first half is mostly a gradual climb over fields, and I hit the turn in 49 min (7m/m). Then the route goes ballistic. The next mile is very steep, narrow, and FKN Ard. After that it's undulating (ha ha), with a nice side slope to keep you interested. Keep the pace up on the upslopes, and don't forget to charge down the down slopes. The very first and last mile or two are on the road.

BIG TIP: The train hoots it's whistle at the last stop before town on the way home. Don't give up, but race like your life depended upon it. I clocked 1:46:02 last year, beating the train by a minute. However it may be faster this year.




Anyway. I'm up for it again. Big time.
My 10 year old is entered into the 5 km fun run in the morning, (so am I). We're camping again, so that she can meet up with a friend she made last year.

And it's a fantastic party. No need to drive home either.
01/05/2006 at 17:45
I can run a 1: 24 half and 3:11 full Marathon but didn't beat the train,did 1:53 did my Quads and ankles in, but will do again.
02/05/2006 at 11:03
done this a few times and doing it again this year.Not much more I can add other than it's very tough and if you haven't trained properly forget about beating the train and just enjoy the event.Personally I think it's one of the most gruelling races out there :)

Anyone got confirmation of their entry yet?I entered back in Feb, have e mailed the race organiser and haven't heard anything back.
02/05/2006 at 11:09

Not heard anything either.
H.
02/05/2006 at 13:10
Hey Boycie, it's my 30th the week before and for some odd reason I was thinking of doing this to celebrate? No chance of beating the train though...
18/05/2006 at 22:50
Where do you camp and whats the site like? H you sure this is how you want to spend your 30th? Nibbs what race are you doing next that youve just finished your last long run for?
18/05/2006 at 22:51
Are enteries limited, when is closing date?
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