305 or 405

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14/05/2008 at 13:51

Which should I go for any recommendations (not too bothered about price unless the difference in them is so minimal its not worth it) I do want to be able to easily read the screen when running though. At the mo I just have my nike + on my i-pod but the rate and distance is so small I cant see it to alter my pace without either stopping or falling over reading it


14/05/2008 at 14:16

Would think the 305 would be easier to read - it's quite chunky and screen size definitely bigger than watchface size of 405.  You can alter the display screen setup as well so gives you the info you actually want clearly displayed.  Never used the 405 but think I might prefer the push button technology of 305 to touch screen type inputs that could perhaps be altered inadvertently.

14/05/2008 at 14:22

I really don't like the chunkiness of the 305 but it's probably personal taste.  the 405 is excellent though.  the touch bezel is pretty nifty, and you can lock it so that you don't press anything by mistake.  i can easily read it - it displays 3 things during a workout - 2 of these are small and the other large, i think you can change which is the largest.  i have the timer as largest and pace and distance smaller.  it also has a virtual partner so you can directly race against yourself on previously done courses.  the bezel makes it easy to flick between the data and heart rate, and i think you can set it to auto scroll if you have the bezel locked.  

 all being said, i never had the 305, i really don't like the look of it, so i'm biased towards the 405.  

14/05/2008 at 14:32
Not actually touched a 405 yet Mrs Moby but I did see one on someone's arm on Sunday at a race and I'd say there's not a great deal of difference in screen size.
14/05/2008 at 16:30

The 405 is clearly an evolution of the 305 not a revolution. Fundamentals are the same/very similar and in many ways you could argue (as many have on here) that there's no point spending the extra for the differences.

I prefer the 405 - much neater unit, wireless connection is very good, aesthetics better, seems to pick up satellites quicker. Is this enough to justify the extra cost ? That's up to the individual. I'm very happy with it.

LIVERBIRD    pirate
15/05/2008 at 11:34

We've got a 205 and by the time it locks on to the satellites, Paula Radcliffe's won and is having lunch!  That's progress for you - the other two are bound to better!

15/05/2008 at 13:13
I just bought a 305. I've never really used a HRM, but for an additional £30, I thought I might as well opt for the 305 as opposed to the 205. In my opinion the 405 was just too expensive for what you gain.
15/05/2008 at 13:17
Well you wait 2 years it will only cost £130 quid and we'll be talking about the 505

LIVERBIRD    pirate
15/05/2008 at 16:08
Someone with too much money is bound to get bored with theirs soon and stick it on Ebay......
15/05/2008 at 21:20
Let me take it off your hands Liverbird?
15/05/2008 at 21:50
Oooh decision decisions. saw the 305 today when i went to first running club meet and it wasnt as big as I expected but if the 405 is better technology that is appealing. Hot Tub Alci hands off Liverbirds they live near to me so I get first dibs on any second hand gear
15/05/2008 at 23:12
I'll out bid you
16/05/2008 at 08:14

Interesting discussion, I am currently deciding on weather to spend £133.95 on a 305 (with HRM), or £219.99 on a 405 (with HRM)

I can't make my mind up!!!

16/05/2008 at 09:08
Where did you see the 405 for 219.99 Dan? Best I found was £240.
16/05/2008 at 09:39


I just ordered one, sod it!!!

16/05/2008 at 11:44
Hottubalci : Wont let you nah nah.Now should I be as decisive as danowat?? My concern is the twizzly edge as I have a nightmare with that on my i-pod always overshooy and hit wrong optionsBon
16/05/2008 at 11:50

As I understand it, from reading the manual, you only use the "twizzly edge thing" to increase or decrease things, like virtual partner pacing etc.

The rest of the time, you are just pressing the required spot on the bezel.

I am hoping it is pretty straight forward to use, there are some videos here showing how the bezel works >http://www8.garmin.com/learningcenter/training/forerunner405/

LIVERBIRD    pirate
16/05/2008 at 12:00

Why is it that the virtual partner never gasps for breath or needs a wee at an inopportune moment?

I hate him

16/05/2008 at 12:27
@Liverbird, try getting the virtual training partner (very) wet.... It gets her down...
16/05/2008 at 12:29
To clarify I managed to get water/condensation on the inside of my old Timex, it didn't seem to like it much - despite being waterproof! [or was it resistant] and having never been submerged in water! (Maybe I just run in really bad weather)
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