Adidas Boost Trainers, anyone had a run in a pair yet? - Page 7 - Gear

Experience

10/03/2013 at 14:18

Marc.S wrote (see)

Not sure, but what i think Runz is getting at is that we shouldnt be running with anything more than a protective layer on our feet, "running shoes" go against the way we are designed/evolved to run, Based on the time line of our species running, running shoes are very much a "fad"

Perfect Marc!

Experience

10/03/2013 at 15:44

In a study published in the December 2009 issue of PM&R: The journal of injury, function and rehabilitation, researchers compared the effects on knee, hip and ankle joint motions of running barefoot versus running in modern running shoes. They concluded that running shoes exerted more stress on these joints compared to running barefoot or walking in high-heeled shoes. So much for cushioned shoes!

If you go down the route of barefoot shoes do it with caution!!
If you didn't run for a year and started back from where you left off no surprise if you get injured,you would take time to re adapt your body to it's former load tolerance.

A lifetime of sitting in chairs/cars and wearing shoes which change the shape/weaken your feet(all shoes) messes with your walking running hardware and will need on your part an understanding of adaption.

Do not go down this road of transition if you are not willing to improve your understanding of what's ahead of you and then the will to apply it.

Ignore the above and you will be just another runner who thinks barefoot injured you!
What injured you is in fact lack of upstanding and impatience.

David Falconer 3

10/03/2013 at 22:26

But why would Adidas lie to me???

cougie

pirate

10/03/2013 at 22:37

Barefoot running would have worked for our ancestors - but they didn't have to run on concrete and train for marathons.

Experience

11/03/2013 at 06:56

Oh dear

Experience

11/03/2013 at 07:30

The following is from A Havard Study

What about surface hardness? Our ancestors didn???t run on pavement.
A common perception is that running on hard surfaces causes injuries, but runners typically adjust leg stiffness so they experience the similar impact forces on soft and hard surfaces. Further, forefoot and some midfoot strikers hit the ground in a way that generates almost no collision forces even on hard surfaces like steel. You can run barefoot and heel strike on a soft beach or lawn, but most natural surfaces are much harder and rougher. With proper forefoot or midfoot strike form, running on hard, rough surfaces can be comfortable and safe.

Experience

11/03/2013 at 07:32

BTW I run in shoes! They just don't have padding or support.
Wide toe box for foot splay with weather protection and puncture protection.

Experience

11/03/2013 at 07:33

Most running injuries come from soft surfaces

Experience

11/03/2013 at 08:00

Cushioned shoes dampen down proprioception causing most runners to heel strike resulting in an impact transient/collision

Edited: 11/03/2013 at 08:14

David Falconer 3

11/03/2013 at 08:38

Bloody hell Runz, Ive seen the Daily Mail run stories on illegal immigrant with 12 children who are living in Kensington with less fervour than youve shown towards barefoot running

cougie

pirate

11/03/2013 at 08:49

Runz - I like the 'can' there.

What about the milages though - what did our ancestors do ? They'd not have run for fun - all that excess energy wasted. Our ancestors also didn't need the internet or wheels for a good while. I don't see anyone advocating the return of the square wheel.

cougie

pirate

11/03/2013 at 08:49

Actually maybe the square wheel was in that Carry On Cavemen documentary I watched.....

Experience

11/03/2013 at 09:11

DF3 you read the Daily Mail? Now why wouldn't that surprise me!

I Don't run barefoot BTW. I wear shoes like our ancestors would have done for weather protection etc.

Cougie - oh dear!

David Falconer 3

11/03/2013 at 09:15

Ok well lets take an extreme example.

Lets say I was wearing say short stilts that had springs on the end so as I ran it absorbed the impact, then bounced me back up.

You would agree I could probably run much faster, cover more ground and use less energy this way.

So that being the case, why is it so hard to believe, that just like these shoes, they havent invented something that absorbs the initial impact, then releases that energy back up again thrust propelling you up and forward? Only on a much smaller basis?

Marc.S

11/03/2013 at 09:33

imo you wont have ran the redding half, only 80% of a half, since your shoes are doing the other 20%

Edited: 11/03/2013 at 09:34

David Falconer 3

11/03/2013 at 09:38

haha, I do realise Im setting myself up for a fall though by saying how good the shoes are then end up posting a time over 1:50 in a weeks time!!!

God I hope not ........ I think the pressure of my boasts will keep pushing me through.

1:46:59 ........ have to do it!

Experience

11/03/2013 at 09:40

All biological specimens have to obey the rules of physics and chemistry.

I'm a biomechanics/ movement specialist/ coach and have helped runners to less injury and faster times through a long transition to shoes with no cushion/structure.
It's not easy and if rushed the runner will get hurt.

Df3 if you are happy with your Boost then stick with it.

If you wear cushioned/structured shoes and are happy in your running with few injuries then carry on

BTW I wear shoes without padding or structure....just in case I haven't mention this before!

Experience

11/03/2013 at 09:42

Good luck at Reading DF3

David Falconer 3

11/03/2013 at 09:43

Runz - what if some guy breaks the 2 hour mark for the marathon in a pair of Boosts? Will you admit youre wrong

Experience

11/03/2013 at 10:52

He would have gone faster without it is what I will say.

When you run skilfully on a healthy strong foot you engage the foots/lower leg hardware which does what the boost is trying to mimic. Most runners who wear the boost will heel strike making it impossible for that reason alone not to engage the hardware. The narrow toe sprung Boost also disengages the big toe.

Your planter fascia and Achilles work together to give you cushioning and performance. 52% of your 2x BW when running will be absorbed before it gets to the knee when running in a barefoot shoe but only if you have fully adapted/conditioned your foot and are now running skilfully.

In the promo vid for the boost the running models are heel striking.
A world class marathon runner is not going to heel strike therefore if there are any magical properties to the Boost they will be by passed.

The boost was designed for heel strikers!
Did you know that DP3?

BTW I run in shoes! Just in case I haven't mentioned this!