Do I need special shoes for off road?

But not proper xc - yet!

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06/03/2003 at 21:31
This is my question:
(First, an exciting moment as this is the first time I've started a thread!)
I want to do some running on footpaths/fields for a change from the usual car fumes.
I am very happy with my Nike Pegasus trainers on tarmac/pavements, but want to know if I'll be OK doing a few miles off road in them.
06/03/2003 at 21:46
06/03/2003 at 21:49
V kind, JJ, but that isn't answering my v serious ?
06/03/2003 at 21:49
You'll probably be fine in road shoes providing that the going doesn't get too steep or uneven.

If its wet and steep you'll find that road shoes don't grip and you'll probably slip and fall. If its uneven you might find that road shoes are too high and you risk turning your ankle.

The best sort of shoes for off-road are either 'studs' (also known as fell shoes) or 'spikes'. Spikes are like track shoes but with long screw in metal spikes. These give good grip but can't be used at all on tarmac because of the metal spikes.

Studs are low trainers with a rubber sole full of pyramid shaped studs. You can wear these on tarmac but you'll want to limit this because they don't have any cushioning and the studs wear quickly.

There's also something called 'trail' shoes which are basically road shoes with a macho makeover. These aren't particularly useful on rough conditions but are probably good for flattish dry paths like disused railway lines.
06/03/2003 at 21:50
Nikes are better than a lot of road shoes for a bit of trail but the stormy pegs might be worth a look or maybe saucony's the Vampire loves hers off road.
06/03/2003 at 21:53
Thanks, guys. I sometimes feel a little cushioned from reality in my trainers and worry I will be more likely to turn ankles etc.. But probably more worried about dodgy knee.
06/03/2003 at 21:53
No. You will mess them up and they don't have the right soles for safety and comfort.
In RW there are many ads that have TRAIL shoes at sale prices. I bought a pair at hal price - £30. Trail shoes are suitable for on and off road. I also use mine for the occasional x/c race. They really do make a difference.
06/03/2003 at 21:58
OK fair enough - will have to be v nice at home to be allowed to spend MORE on running! Thanx JJ - see other thanx elsewhere!
06/03/2003 at 22:01
I just new you wanted me to post 'something'.
06/03/2003 at 22:04
I am so impressed that I've got so many responses, without even mentioning 'thongs' etc!! (ooops)
06/03/2003 at 22:07
Snap your fingers and DavidB will appear.
06/03/2003 at 22:09
Not sure I'm his sort of gal really - can't cope with a thong for even a half marathon! (Perhaps should get back to shoe subject?!)
06/03/2003 at 22:29
07/03/2003 at 12:45
OK then, if you insist!! Slightly off original thread subject, but in keeping with most current gear threads, anyone recommend thongs for running?? Or indeed other underwear - my only scar from last weekend's half marathon is a line from the bottom of my sports bra!
(No sign of DB yet, JJ)
07/03/2003 at 14:24
Hi Wends
Thongs for running - NOOOO! the pain! Or the pleasure, if you are xxxxxxxx (name of fourumite deleted). Commando is better. And no VPL.

Only time I´ve ever used the services of St john´s Ambulance at a race is when my sports bra gouged a hole in me during a half marathon. Think it happens when they are too loose and move around a bit.

OK, back to shoes...if you are looking for off-road trainers, the Asics Gel Guts are really good (and only #50!).
07/03/2003 at 14:48
My g/f has some Nike trail running shoes and I've got sme Adidas ones.

They are both much better off road than our road running shoes. They also provide much better cushioning that Walsh style studs or Cross country spikes. They aren't just a macho mak=ove, but are closer to the ground than normal runners, they also have good enough stud based soles to really grip, They do have less cushioning than road running shoes,

we can vouch for their grip and quality having run for an hour through mud and muck in the rain in Chshire - up hill and down dale with nary a slip.... They also are slightly more mud proof than standard road running shoes.
07/03/2003 at 15:13
What hills are there in Cheshire ? Try them in neighbouring Derbyshire and you'll find you need a 'proper' shoe like Walshes.

Why do you want cushioning when you're trotting through bog ?
07/03/2003 at 15:55
Thanks for helpful advice, both shoes and not!
Even fewer hills (in fact probably none according to TB) in Essex/Herts!
07/03/2003 at 16:29

I have recently started do my long Sunday run on a disused railway line. This gets pretty muddy and my road shoes (Saucony Omni 2s) were not gripping very well. I got myself a pair of Saucony Grid Xterra (£50 mail order from Northern Runner, £20 off list price and came the next day!) and they are great. I can run through the mud now and the grip is the same as the non-muddy bits. They are also a little more low profile and the heel is extended out the back to give better grip going down heel. The cushioning isn't bad as well.

I think they're great and can throughly recommend them.

07/03/2003 at 21:01
Well said, Tom

Bog on!
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