Fell shoes?

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14/01/2013 at 19:14

Trying to decide on a pair of trainers for the really muddy stuff. I use a pair of Adidas Kanadia TR4 but they can't handle the bad stuff this weather is throwing at me which is a shame cause they fit my feet really well and I love running in them.

I was looking at these La Sportivas but have seen on someones blog they wear out pretty quickly, any views?

http://www.peteblandsports.co.uk/products/la-sportiva-crosslite-xc-sale.htm?brand=1

 

If not these what are other peoples opinions?

 

Thanks.

15/01/2013 at 06:13

Remember a decent fell shoe (X-Talon - Mudclaw - Walsh PB) will have a 5 or 6mm lower heel/toe differential than your Kanadias Jimmi...

 

Edited: 15/01/2013 at 06:14
15/01/2013 at 11:40
I love the la Sportiva cross lites but I did have to shoe goo the toes as the material started to fray, worked a treat though!
15/01/2013 at 13:01

Mudclaws are about as good as it gets for wet muddy stuff. If you are experiencing anything like the ankle deep slop I have to put up with at the moment, then I wouldn't bother looking for anything else.

However, the 333s from the post above are no longer in production though you may find some bargains out there. Both the 272s and 333s have been replaced by the 300s. There is also a new lighter weight race shoe due out next month (265?).

The mudclaws are also suprisingly good in snow if we get any more of that.

 

15/01/2013 at 14:57
Saturday's Fell race saw about 30% 212's, 30% 190's, 25% Walshies, 15% other. About the same ad every other fell race I've done.
15/01/2013 at 15:00
Oh, forgot to mention. I've replaced my 212's with the crosslite XC and Saturday was my first race with them.

Lighter and wider than the 212's, not as flexible across the toes and didn't have as much bite in the muddy descents. But very, very good....and your toes don't look like hobbitsus afterwards.
15/01/2013 at 15:51

I use Walshies!

15/01/2013 at 16:39
Cake wrote (see)

 Really? right best try and stock pile a pair for when mine fall apart they are that good.

Don't worry - the 300s are every bit as good and the laces stay done up too!

You may be able to find some end of line bargains around on the 333s

15/01/2013 at 21:58

Are you saying the mudclaws good for snow too?

What is the sizing like?

 

15/01/2013 at 23:04
goji wrote (see)

Are you saying the mudclaws good for snow too?

What is the sizing like?

 


I've had no problems in snow in mudclaws - definitely my preferred shoe. Not so good on hard ice but what is? I guess you are then into microspikes or at least some serious O shoes.

I take an 8 shoe in normal width and find an 8 mudclaw is fine.

16/01/2013 at 09:03
Pete S wrote (see)
goji wrote (see)

Are you saying the mudclaws good for snow too?

What is the sizing like?

 


I've had no problems in snow in mudclaws - definitely my preferred shoe. Not so good on hard ice but what is? I guess you are then into microspikes or at least some serious O shoes.

I take an 8 shoe in normal width and find an 8 mudclaw is fine.

Pete, you've seen my Mud-Claws after a winter of the salty brine that results from melting snow & salt

I'll go along with you - no better shoe in mud (been wearing them for the PECO-Xc series too)


As for ice, I've ordered a pair of these (@ this price!!), so they shuld be fine if it does get properly icy
http://www.sportsshoes.com/product/INO204/inov~8-oroc-340-running-shoes/

Edited: 16/01/2013 at 09:04
16/01/2013 at 13:17
Richard A Thackeray wrote (see)

Pete, you've seen my Mud-Claws after a winter of the salty brine that results from melting snow & salt

I'll go along with you - no better shoe in mud (been wearing them for the PECO-Xc series too)


As for ice, I've ordered a pair of these (@ this price!!), so they shuld be fine if it does get properly icy
http://www.sportsshoes.com/product/INO204/inov~8-oroc-340-running-shoes/

Ah yes I remember the salt problem but off-road that is not an issue. My 272s are still going strong and I now have the 300s waiting in the wings.

I saw the Orocs too and was very tempted - what a bargain! However,  as I already have 4 pairs of Inov-8s on the go, I thought it a little excessive having a pair just for when its icey! (I've got microspikes anyway)

I also didin't fancy trying to explain yet another mail order parcel to Mrs S!  
I seem to be morphing into Imelda Marcos.......

17/01/2013 at 08:44
Pete S wrote (see)

I saw the Orocs too and was very tempted - what a bargain! However,  as I already have 4 pairs of Inov-8s on the go, I thought it a little excessive having a pair just for when its icey! (I've got microspikes .......

S'funny!
Me too, more Inov-8s than road shoes
2 pair Roc-Lite 315

2 pair Mud-Claw 333
1 pair OROC 340 (now)

Plus; 1 pair Wave Harriers (in the yellow)

1 pair 'More Miles Cheviots' (okay for general XC running/training, but too 'clumpy'/rigid for racing


My daughter thought that picture in the 'WhichShoes' article in the present copy of 'FellRunner' was my cupboard!!

17/01/2013 at 13:04
Richard A Thackeray wrote (see)


My daughter thought that picture in the 'WhichShoes' article in the present copy of 'FellRunner' was my cupboard!!


Know what you mean - I saw that pic and thought it looked more than a bit familiar. We have a wall of running shoes in varying states of cleanliness. I think I'm up to about 8 pairs and Mrs S has a good half dozen or so. My daughter has recently joined the local AC and has now contributed 2 pairs of trainers and some spikes to  the collection!

BTW - couldn't resist the Orocs. Took one look at the weather forecast last night and got the visa out. They have just despatched so hopefully be with me for a run in the snow over my local hills this weekend.

17/01/2013 at 20:38

Your going to love those Orocs gents but keep an eye on the sizing, I`m a size 10 Talon 212 but needed 9.5 Oroc 280s...  

Got a pair of size 10 Oroc 280s for sale £50.. only covered 6miles..

 

17/01/2013 at 21:31
Roland McCartney wrote (see)

Your going to love those Orocs gents but keep an eye on the sizing, I`m a size 10 Talon 212 but needed 9.5 Oroc 280s...  

Got a pair of size 10 Oroc 280s for sale £50.. only covered 6miles..

Cheers Roland,

I tried the Orocs on when i was up in the lakes last year. Know what you mean though - I take a 1/2 size down in the x-talon 212 to the mudclaw 272/300 and roclite 295.

17/01/2013 at 22:34
Me too! Hope it doesn't all melt before they arrive!!
18/01/2013 at 20:34
The Bus wrote (see)
Me too! Hope it doesn't all melt before they arrive!!

 

Orocs arrived this morning. I think i was the only one at work today enjoying the large dump of snow we had. Commuting is sooo much easier with dobs!

20/01/2013 at 17:42

I wore my OROCs this morning up at the 'Stanbury Splash' (-4 when we pulled up, with a strong breeze & at a 1000 foot above sea-level!!!!!!)

http://woodentops.org.uk/index.php?topic=stanbury&subtopic=home

Whilst a fair stretch of the course would possibly have been better in the Mud-Claws (more 'bite'?), the icy stretches - mainly a 200 yard (1-in-8??) descent - were far better for the confidence factor & grip.

They did make a heck of a noise when crossing the road on the 'out' & back' though!! 

Despite a dousing in a bucket of hot-water, they've lost that newness now

 

 

 

 

 

20/01/2013 at 20:13
Richard A Thackeray wrote (see)

I wore my OROCs this morning up at the 'Stanbury Splash' (-4 when we pulled up, with a strong breeze & at a 1000 foot above sea-level!!!!!!)

http://woodentops.org.uk/index.php?topic=stanbury&subtopic=home

Whilst a fair stretch of the course would possibly have been better in the Mud-Claws (more 'bite'?), the icy stretches - mainly a 200 yard (1-in-8??) descent - were far better for the confidence factor & grip.

They did make a heck of a noise when crossing the road on the 'out' & back' though!! 

Despite a dousing in a bucket of hot-water, they've lost that newness now

 Heard the splash was pretty icey so a good test of the Orocs. Travelling any distance around here is nigh on impossible so contented myself with a 10 miler over some small local hills and bridalways. The orocs stood up a treat and were in a league of their own on the hard icey stuff. As you say, Mudclaws may have been better on the softer stuff but pretty chuffed nonetheless. Looking forward to trying them out in the Lakes - I think they would be OK on wet/greasy rock - so probably choose them over a Mudclaw for wet days out in the high fells.

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