Good multi-terrain trainers

Brooks website, clicked on puregrit 2 and then under description it describes how they are tested to the top standards but as a minamilist shoe thats the life span they expect. To many shoes out there to choose from. If I was to be honest, if my trailroc's didnt feel short then I would just use them for everything

I only got 230m out of my first pair of pure grits but it wasn't that they were worn out it was just that during one race they randomly rubbed my foot so I didn't want to wear them again! I probably could have used them for shorter distances! I do have another pair though on 60m which are fine!!!

I wear inov8 Terrafly 313 GTX

These are actually for both on and off road, Extremely comfy, Great grip and very light.

Good luck

Paul Gardner:I expect to get WAY longer than that out of my minimalist shoes (VivoBarefoot Neos).

If you look on the brooks website you can test a pair of their pure range shoes for a week free of charge!

I never new the Pure range had an expected 250-300 miles worth of use. I got 370 out of my first pair and the uppers were perfect. I suspect it's the outsole that doen't last. I have compared an old pair with a newish pair and I would say the rubber gets alittle more spongy with age. I usually change around 280 miles so it's no big deal for me. I've done 2 marathons in the Pure Cadence and have decided to by 2 more for stock whilst they're cheap and available now version 2 is out.

Tx for all the suggestions.
I was very tempted by the Inov-8 Trailrocs but felt they were just a bit too similar to my current New Balance 'waffles'

 In the end I opted for Merrell Mix Masters. Looks like this weekend's snow might be an ideal tiem to test them out

good choice

Ohhhhhhhhh Mix Masters, you must let us know how you get on with them..

There's a bit of negavity sometimes towards trail shoes made by the major road shoe manufacturers, but having tried a fair few Salomons, Inov8s etc, I have settled on Saucony Peregrine's for mainly trail/bit of road and Asics Fuji Attack for runs where there is more than 25% road. I find both to be excellent.

I`ve enjoyed snow and mud in Adidas Kanadias recently.

Tubby2bellies, I have the trailrocs as mentioned but they feel to short now and down hill my toes are right at end. I posted a few enquires on here about different shoes, Salomon crosslites etc but read such good reviews about the Mix masters and liking the minimal shoe more  I have decided to buy some too. I was working in Japan (they had none, feet very small) but in America now and found a shop close by that stocks them in Parrot !!!! So going tomorrow and seen as its cold and snowy here I will post a review of my first run and how they fair up.... Mind you its hunting season in Pittsburgh at moment so most likely I will be shot on the trails

I wasn't shot but when I tripped over a log buried in the snow anyone would have thought I had been.....I went down like a sack of /forum/smilies/confused_smiley.gif@!t]s@!t.... The mix masters where really comfy, loads of room and broad fitting so perfect for my flippers. I was running in South Park which is a mix of tarmac, woodland, Mountain bike trails etc. I covered 8miles and straight from the box had no rubbing or discomfort There was a good covering of snow and it was also snowing heavy at the time but I didnt slip once (I was actually walking back to the car when I fell over) They gripped all surfaces from snow covered tarmac to leafy forest floor covered in snow, streams and covered logs without a single slip. Very sure footed in the dodgy conditions and gave me loads of confidence to let loose a bit more down hills and concentrate on my footing rather than worrying about falling. Just enough cushioning to protect against jutted rocks and feel comfortable on tarmac but not so much that you can't feel the surface your on. So far for a first run I really like them and prefer them to my Inov8 but only because they fit better. Hoping these will be good enough for the Lakeland trails Marathon but time will tell. A big thumbs up so far

Max's mum - what's the sizing like in the Inov8 Trailroc compared to your normal shoe size?

Paul Gardner 16 - good to hear the shoes worked for you (although not so good to hear about the fall)!