Last time I trust Sweatshop!

They've kitted me out in the wrong type of trainer

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09/04/2010 at 13:31

Me being naive and new to all this, I thought they were trained to know what they're doing. I told the bloke who fitted me that I have flat feet, yet he still 'prescribed' me the Gel Nimbus 11s, which I have just learnt, from Wiggle, are completely unsuitable and, I'm now worried that, if I continue to wear them, they'd do damage to my knee - I reckon if he was gonna recommend Asics, he should have gone for something like the Gel Evo 5, would I be correct in that assumption?

 I'm angry because I now know I was mis-sold my trainers. They're too worn now for me to have any redress, but can anyone advise?

 I'm around 9st (which I hate) have a dodgy left knee, flat feet and weak ankles (I tend to 'roll' my feet and 'go over' on my ankles (particularly the right as it has to support more of my bodyweight than the left)?

 Because of my AS (see profile) I'm on benefits, but I'm serious about getting into running, so can anyone recommend me something...?

Cheers dudes!


M...eldy    pirate
09/04/2010 at 13:33
As reputable a company as Wiggle are I would trust someone in a shop who has seen you run over a company on the internet who hasnt.
09/04/2010 at 13:36

What makes you trust Wiggle (who are an on-line retailer, so I guess maybe you phoned them?) over Sweatshop (where I presume you actually visited a shop)?

Clearly someone is in error, but I think you need an opinion from an expert, who actually looks at how you run, etc., rather than just taking Wiggle's word that Sweatshop have got it wrong.

09/04/2010 at 13:38

Flat feet doesn't always mean overpronation.

If your not happy with the shoes take them back to sweatshop - they offer a 30 day money back scheme.

09/04/2010 at 13:39

Hi Sarah,

I wonder if you actually having problems as a result of the shoes or is your question just based on what you've read elsewhere? Sweatshop are usually very good and offer a number of shoes for you to try out in the store.

09/04/2010 at 13:40

have you done the wet foot test ? - what type of shoe does this say you need?

ive had my gait measured twice with different results as most of the people doing the analysis imho are simply shop assistants rather than having any real experience or training to qualify them to do such

Edited: 09/04/2010 at 13:41
cougie    pirate
09/04/2010 at 13:53

I would trust the guy in the shop more than a description of a shoe on Wiggle to be honest.

 Way I see it - there are 3 options for you :

If you've worn them lots and you arent feeling any niggles - then the shoe cant be that bad for you ?

If you've worn them lots and ARE feeling niggles - then go back for another fitting/refund ?

If you havent worn them lots - then take the shoe back for a refund ?

09/04/2010 at 13:55

Sorry, I'm autistic and I don't have the best way of wording things, I apologise. Wiggle seem to go by something called the 'wet foot' test, which shows the imprint of your foot on something like a towel. If I do that, the whole of my footprint is visible which, as I have flat feet seems logical. According to Wiggle (a company I've dealt with before) this indicates I require a MC shoe, rather than a cushion shoe.

 I wasn't able to try more than 1 pair on. It was in Manchester, in the Trafford Centre, and I was panicking and just accepted the first thing they offered me (it could have cost £500 and I'd still have taken it, I was in that bad a state.)

I actually went into the loos and threw up after that, I was that bad. 

 I'm also in a very bad way now, so I apologise if I'm snapping at people. Spent the whole morning in tears and I'm crying now. Yes, I know why, but I'm not going to bother you good people with it - it's not the right place.

I was going to post asking if there was anyone local who'd be kind enough to help me (preferably female and around my age (I'm 36) but who'd want to...? I'm just too much hard work and trouble. Why do you think I have no friends?

 Sorry for this, please forgive me...

 Thank you for your help,


09/04/2010 at 13:57

My flat feet say I should over pronate, but the video said different - possibly because I don't run very fast! So for now I'm back on neutral which seem fine, so oyu never can tell.

Did you see the video, as it's not entirely rocket science to tell if you're stable when you land!


09/04/2010 at 14:05

Its not the sweatshops fault you weren't prepared to try out more than a single pair of shoes, how can you expect them to give you the correct advice if can't spend enough time in the shop to recieve it?.

Just because Wiggle say they are the wrong shoe, its not neccesarily true.

09/04/2010 at 14:19

The wet foot test isn't that accurate IMO. When I've done it it suggests wearing a stability shoe but the results of all three gait analyses I've had done, the first being over 4 years ago and the latest 2 week, show that I'm a very neutral runner so just need a cushioned shoe.

However, the OP doesn't say whether or not she actually had a gait analysis done or not. If not I don't think Sweatshop can be blamed for "mis-selling" the shoes.

09/04/2010 at 14:28
Sarah, the 'wet foot test' really isn't very accurate. It sounds as if you panicked in the shop, and I can understand that, and weren't able to  spend much time finding the right shoe. Are you actually having any problems, or is it more that you fear problems developing? Are you able to go back to the shop during the week, when it's quieter, and discuss the situation? Is there no-one who could go with you to offer support?
09/04/2010 at 14:28

Sarah, have the shoes actually given you any problems or are you just assuming from the wet foot test that you over pronate so the chap in the shop must be wrong?  The wet foot test is a vague indication at best and shouldn't be relied on to give anything other than a suggestion of what sort of shoes might possibly be right for you.


I suggest you head back to Sweatshop and have a chat with the chap who sold you the shoes.  Tell him your concerns, that you think you might over pronate, and ask him to explain why he suggested the Nimbus.  If you keep calm and explain that you're serious about getting into running and want to understand about the right shoes then he should be happy to explain things to you.

M...eldy    pirate
09/04/2010 at 14:34

Sarah, your posts are indicating that these problems are not isolated

I think you need support that is wider than this forum at the moment.   I see that the GP is unable to help you,  is there a support group near you that is able to help?  I think that once you have settled what is on your mind to make you cross and upset then the other problems will become much smaller and manageable.

If your shoes are ok for you at the moment and they are not giving you any problems then accept them as right for you.   

09/04/2010 at 14:48

Ok, so I wasn't familiar with the poster, and the problems there-in, so maybe on the strength on this, my post above may have come across a bit harsh....however.....

My point still stands, you need to spend a bit of time with any running shop, they will need to do various checks, may involve wet tests, gait checks, both, plus also trying and, and running in, a number of different shoes so they can suggest the proper shoe for you.

Obviously thats easier said than done, but its pretty much essential in getting the correct shoe fitted.

09/04/2010 at 14:51
Meldy's right, Sarah, (for once ). It may be that this is a bad time for you to be bothering about shoes. If they're not causing problems can you manage to forget about them and enjoy your running?
09/04/2010 at 15:07

Sarah, I have flat feet and run in neutral shoes. I'm sure lots of other people do to. As others have said, if the shoes are not causing any problems, stick with them no matter what anybody else says. If they are causing problems, take them back, Sweatshop are a reputable retailer and would listen to any queries you have.

Good luck

cougie    pirate
09/04/2010 at 15:13

Yup - as the others say - if the shoes arent giving you any problems - then they are fine for you.

 Try not to worry about that wiggle test  - its only approximate -  and go for a run  - that always makes me feel better.

09/04/2010 at 15:14


I've sent you a PM, I've a son who has Asperger's and I don't think I can be too far away as I work in Manchester.


09/04/2010 at 15:17
Cougs - I CAN'T that's why I'm upset! I've knackered my knee (see thread in the H&I forum). I'm in 'I just wanna crawl into a black hole and die' mode at the moment. Not even my 'happy caps' are working at the moment!)
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