LenserH7 or Fenix HP10

Which head torch

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05/11/2010 at 19:54
Smalleyboy wrote (see)

. I am doing a night race through a forest next week and that should be a good test for it.

Just a comment on this, if you are running in dense forest consider using the fenix diffuser on the light. When I purchased mine it came free and it simply clips on and you can flip it into place when required. To give you an idea of the effect of the diffuser see the pic below


06/11/2010 at 02:01
Yes, there's a continuously variable arm on the back of the H7 on the battery pack for brightness. Having said that I still prefer My Princeton Tec after a few days of evening running now the clocks have changed.
06/11/2010 at 10:40

The jump from 50 to 120 lumens is significant. I've done 4 or 5 night runs now both on and off road and lack of light has never been an issue.

When choosing between torches the biggest negative I had for the Fenix was it's weight, but honestly, when running you don't even know it's there, very very comfortable and balanced. It being waterproof is very reassuring, the build quality is excellent - I really wouldn't swap it for anything at the moment.

07/11/2010 at 21:45
I've had the Lenser as a birthday present from the old man. Given it a quick whirl in the garden and not surprisingly theres plenty of light. I don't think light output is an issue for either torch. The light it self is a well made aluminium affair and the focus is very smooth. It goes from spot to fairly diffuse. That said, mid-focus (about 1.5m wide beam) seems best which is probably where the Fenix is fixed at anyway.

I'll take it for a spin this week and let you know where it stands re comfort.

P.S What's good about a regulated power supply?
08/11/2010 at 09:22

My understanding is that on a torch with an un-regulated power supply, as soon as the batteries are first used, the light level fades gently over time until the batteries are fully depleted.

Whilst, a regulated power supply keeps the lighting level constant over the life of the batteries until right near the end when it drops off very quickly.

Therefore a torch with a regulated power supply will give you constant lighting levels but when the batteries are done, you may not get much warning.

09/11/2010 at 01:23
All led lensers and others from the same maker are unregulated. Princeton tec apex for one is regulated. Don't know about the others.
09/11/2010 at 09:22

Did a 10 mile run last night in heavy rain with the Fenix. It was reassuring to know it is waterproof and i didn't need to worry about it failing due to water ingress.

Great bit of kit.

Fenix is regulated.

12/11/2010 at 14:13
Took the Lenser for a test through the forest and local trails last night. In short, its fine. Plenty bright enough, comfortable, doesn't fall off your head. It doesn't make the mud any shallower though.

From other peoples comments the Fenix is also perfectly fine. Since they're pretty similar in price I'd say the Fenix edges it for a) waterproof b) regulated power supply. In all other things they seem equal.

Don't get me wrong, I'm perfectly happy with the lenser. But the kind of person who heads out onto the trails at night is also the kind of person that will head out into the rain and there, on paper at least, the Fenix has edge.
19/11/2010 at 12:02

Still undecided

About the lenser, it says max power is 170 lumins, is that on boost mode or is that continuous? What is the highest lumin on the lenser that you can keep it on for hours?

19/11/2010 at 12:14

I believe the Lenser can be kept on full brightness all the time. However, I doubt you would need it this bright.

The Fenix can only run at the 225 lumen level for 3 minutes before it then switched back down to the 120 lumen level. I did a night race last night and only used the 120 lumen level and it was brighter than all the Petzl and Black Diamond torches which the other runners were using. 

19/11/2010 at 15:14


do you know what the next one down from the top power is on the Lenser? If the brightest is 170 then that will prob drain the battery quite a lot.  I supppose ideally I woudl want something that can stay on about 100 l for several hours

19/11/2010 at 15:34

I believe the Lenser is infinitely variable so you can set it at any lightness level you want. This is one of the big plus points of the Lenser. I believe you can also adjust the width of the beam from a spread of light to a spot. The Lenser gets good reviews. I chose the Fenix over it because the Fenix has an extra head strap over the top of your head and it is waterproof.

I don't have a Lenser but those that do, rate it highly. It is slightly lighter in weight to the Fenix.

20/11/2010 at 22:52
Both of the torches being discussed look excellent but I think i will get the Fenix HL20, seems fantastic performance for the money, and is mega light and works off 1AA. The weight saving over my Myo XP will be significant even taking into account carrying a couple of spare AA's and the regulated output will be a real help as the brightness of my headtorches drop off significantly after an hour in my experience.
20/11/2010 at 23:06

You can now get a programmable regulated rechargeable battery for your Petzl torches. (Well the latest ones anyway). You can set the two light levels you want and whether you want it regulated on your computer, it basically allows you to program your headtorch for the light levels you want depending on the event you are using it on.


13/12/2010 at 12:26

I went for the fennix.  Just used it once so far in the snow so maybe not the best test.

The prob I had was that there was a very bright spot just infront of me but really it wasnt big enough.  I dont want to get all technical (cos I cant ) but my alpkit shines a consistent beam which is a fairly big circle.  The fennix a bright spot in the middle of a bigger circle but the bit that wasnt bright didnt seem as bright as the alpkit circle if that makes sense.

 am I doing something wrong? Is it meant to be like that cos if it is then I dont think it is what I want.  Ideally I want the beam to be about as wide as the alpkit but brighter , none of this bright spot which is quite small larky

13/12/2010 at 12:33

I also have the Fenix and it does have quite a concentrated beam. I use it for night racing and I find it excellent for that purpose.

If you want a wider spread fo light, you probably need a diffuser. I think Fenix do one for the HP10 but it will probably just spread the light at the expense of the distance it throws the light.

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