My Vibram Fivefingers Shoes (ongoing story for potential users)

From purchase to end of product life

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07/02/2013 at 20:40
HowardS -- Stick with it, I'm interested.

I don't want to get into a debate about trolling but I can't understand why people bother to post on threads in which they claim to have no interest... Why not find a more interesting thread or go and do something more worthwhile?
07/02/2013 at 20:44
But I am Interested.
08/02/2013 at 20:50
Ok, to answer a couple of criticisms:

The reason I was reporting the daily use during the first couple of weeks is because the makers specifically state you should not run in the shoes at all during that period and therefore if you get blisters doing next to nothing then I would consider the shoes are not great. Also the shoes allegedly can be worn with or without socks and I have read that others have developed blisters so I am trying to ascertain if certain socks can prevent or minimise blisters. Toed socks are obviously the only ones that can be worn and are more expensive.

I actually don't care if the shoes end up in the bin, I just wanted to try out the minimalist shoes available and see if Zola Budd and barefoot Kenyan runners were doing something my feet could never manage. If I end up injured so be it.

If you are not interested in barefoot shoes then don't criticise my efforts as I am not here seeking your approval.

I noted the comment about getting to the run and injury but a thread that read "Bought some shoes, went for a run, tore a ligament, put them in the bin" would say nothing about the "gear", though from the lack of support here many would love to hear from someone who is more of a loser than they are.

The shoes require a slow transition as explained above so I may not do a Marathon in them before Berlin, or as I said, they may end up in the bin long before that.
08/02/2013 at 20:56
Keep going, I can't wait il you run in them........
08/02/2013 at 21:24
What is the process now before you are allowed to run in them?
08/02/2013 at 21:58

there isnt one really, i ran in mine on day 1, all be it just a 1 mile run on grass, you just need to build it up slowly, your calves and achilles certainly let you know when you can go longer in them. i found it easier than my friend since i'd ran the previous year in a minimal lower drop shoe, he went straight from a kayano to them whcih is a huge difference. 

08/02/2013 at 23:36
What I found interesting is that you don't seem to stick with anything, and that you didn't realise there was a transition to be made. Were they bought on a whim or did you plan to go barefoot. Just curious about your motivation as you said Newton Motion suited you but they wore after 350 miles. If somethin worked for me I would stick with it.
09/02/2013 at 09:48
What I find interesting is that people seem more interested in how I enjoy my hobby instead of my impression that the "Gear" section of a running forum would have people interested in an on depth full life review of something relatively new.

I have never seen any computer forum tell someone reviewing technology that they own too many computers or should only buy from one maker.

Still I will press on and answer.

I started wearing negative heel shoes about 10 years ago (Earth shoes) but never for running, I have also worn MBT's. The earth shoes were not washable and the MBT'S were very heavy. Both did what they said but technology and research continually moves forward. I try different shoes because I can and I never wear them to destruction. I put them in a shoe bank to benefit someone with no shoes if they don't work out or I find something better. I have healthy feet according to my masseuse but being older I have to try and eliminate unnecessary issues and I am doing many foot exercises to create strength and flexibility. I changed to Newtons to try an help my knees which did work and i have run about 1000 miles in Newtons. I still have my Newtons and will not be getting rid of them any time soon, i will also try the Distance S version due in the UK in March. They will probably remain my training shoes for 50% and if the Vigrams work out they may take 50% + or -.

My plan hopefully is to run under 4 hours in 2013 and better form and a lightweight shoe is part of that strategy. It's too late for me to be a record breaker.

Running is my hobby and hobbies allow for frivolous expenditure and if there was only one shoes for everybody then the shelves would look pretty boring. I have only one UK marathon planned for this year and the rest are abroad so please someone tell me I am stupid to visit other countries when I can run here for free)

Surely that is the next logical criticism.
09/02/2013 at 10:00
Mark, the makers do suggest a strategy and the seller told me about a woman who bought the shoes ignored the advice and the next time he saw her she was back complaining it was their fault that she was in a knee length plaster.

I am trying to ascertain if by following the strategy I can avoid an injury attributable to the shoes. For reference, I don't consider blisters are a necessity and any hint of something serious and I will consider the shoes are only suitable for the lucky few.

For reference both Newton and Vigram do more than just change the colour of their shoes annually, and my Newton supplier tells me historically some major changes have taken place so if I buy a 2013 shoe it is likely to be different to my last model anyway. That is not my boredom.
Edited: 09/02/2013 at 10:05
09/02/2013 at 11:17
What made you pick Vibrams over some of the other "barefoot" manufacturers?
09/02/2013 at 12:12
I chose the Vibrams because they came up a lot when I put barefoot running into google and because whilst I could not find any proper reviews I could not find anyone saying their experience was a disaster.

Despite being a pretty satisfied Newton user I bought them as a barefoot experience and now realise the term is being used in a pretty vague manner.

It is my conclusion that any shoe that does not separate the toes allowing the foot to splay out and share the load is not a true barefoot shoe. It is that experience that I am investgating as much as anything else.

The second reason was my ability to visit an outlet with all Vibram shoes in all sizes and a dedicated Vibram seller. I knew from research that there was more to barefoot running than buying shoes and doing my normal run, which I was pretty much able to do when I moved from my Asics to my Newtons.

My only worry so far with my Vigrams is that they are snug and I can't see that blisters or black toe can be avoided, so if they have cracked this potential problem they could turn out to be great shoes.

If anyone considers there is a better shoe available fitting the criteria then please point it out as somewhere down the line I might give it a go.
09/02/2013 at 13:27
HowardS - I asked so I can understand your motivation for choosing particular footwear. Sounds like you have got the hump, so to cut this short, no more questions from me. I'm out.
09/02/2013 at 14:50
To suggest a Marathon runner does not stick at anything especially when you should know just how hard it can be to get out the door when the pavements have ice and snow just seemed a tad insulting. Apologies if my tone conveyed this.
09/02/2013 at 20:20

I too was really interested in the barefoot thing but have always been put off by the hobbit'esq look of the VFF's.I currently do about 80% of my running in Inov8 bare-x 180's that let your feet behave how they need to behave without the daftness. It took about a week or so to do my first 10 miler in them but then I'd made a fairly healthy transition from Asics Nimbus - Nike Free 3.0's- Saucony Kin's-Inov8 233's-Barex 150's-Barex 180's.

09/02/2013 at 21:54
Hi Kittenkat and Sean, I guess having worn bright blue and or bright red Newtons for a while now when I am only a very enthusiastic hobby runner and not that young either, I have no shame. Yes the shoes bring a few smiles and probably sniggers but I run for me and my experience so don't want others to dictate how I do it. There is no getting away from the fact everything about the five finger shoes is "wrong"

I will check out how you made your shoe progress Sean as you have taken my lack of brand consistency approach.

Thanks for your input.
09/02/2013 at 22:00

Would something like a blog be a more appropriate place for this?  Wordpress, or

10/02/2013 at 09:14
HowardS wrote (see)
MarC, the makers do suggest a strategy and the seller told me about a woman who bought the shoes ignored the advice and the next time he saw her she was back complaining it was their fault that she was in a knee length plaster.

I'm aware, and i was saying a build up is needed, My point was that there is no set way to do it and that your previous running shoes play a big part in how fast you can transition,  someone who's ran in minimal shoes and has good form can start running right away in them, just shorter distances to start with. i think many people go way over the top with build up, i know someone who would only walk in them for 3 months, 
Every runner is different, everyone will take a different length of time to adjust, If you're coming from big chunky asics then yeah.. its not gonna be as quick to transition.
Edited: 10/02/2013 at 09:16
10/02/2013 at 10:31
Wilkie, last time I installed Wordpress the lousy security holed software allowed someone to destroy a whole Godaddy server full of users sites so never again.

This really isn't a nice place to hang out and unfortunately those who were interested in Vigram shoes will now have to buy a pair to get an unbiased opinion.

This site really does deserve the bad press it gets regarding members, and I will go back to what I enjoy, the running.

Thanks to the moderators who did nothing to restrain the petty posters who it appears had no interst in the thread anyway.

To those who were interested sorry but life is too short to do things that aren't fun.
10/02/2013 at 11:49
I am interested in the way these have started to appear, way back in the 1970's an American mate wore "negative heels" and she brought me a opulent of pairs over, they were my "weekend" shoes for ages
10/02/2013 at 12:44

Howard, you can't post on an open forum and expect only people who agree with you or are interested in your subject matter to post.  You CERTAINLY can't expect the moderators to take off dissenting opinions!

That was why I suggested a blog - only people who are actually interested in it will make the effort to read it, and those who aren't won't bother.

If you shove it under the noses of everyone on a forum, you'll get opinions from people, like it or not.



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