The common consent is that if you are running off road you probably don't need your orthotics as your feet land differently all the time. I wear mine on my neutral road shoes but not with my off road Inov8 Roclites and have not had a problem.
I went to a running shop and they had me run without orthotics to see what my action was like. I'm very flat footed and a pronator. Then we went through various shoes with the orthotics to get the right action and fit. It worked for me.
Have you tried lace locking your shoes? this tightens them up around the ankle and stops your feet moving around. If you don't know how to do this there are plenty of videos on youtube.
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