I am on my second pair of 1170s and they are fine for me. The Asics DS Trainers, as mentioned above, are more of a racing shoe, so if speed is more important to you, than sorting out your knee problem, then give them a try.
I've had a few pairs of 11XX and don't consider them particuarly heavy: Good daily trainer. As previous posters say there is the DS trainer and also DS racer, which are suitable for overpronators but lighter with less cushioning (and probably less durable).
You say you are now 4mins slower. Over what distance is that?
your drop in time could be because you had an injury more than the shoes, did you have to take time out because of it?
Dee, I ran 3 marathons in 1160s and they were a really comfortable shoe. Just got some 1170's for £41 from Sweatshop. 1160s RIP.
Can someone tell me what happened to the 11xx series - I ran in the 1100 to 1160 models but can't see any obvious successor now - is there a similar shoe in the Asics range now?
GT1000 is the successor for the 11xx range. GT2000 for the 12xx's. .....
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