Caught and banned @ Edinburgh Marathon.

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26/06/2009 at 17:51

A man and a woman have been banned from competing in the Edinburgh Marathon for life after they were caught swapping entry numbers.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/8120637.stm

26/06/2009 at 17:56

At least they weren't walking!

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26/06/2009 at 18:09
LIVERBIRD    pirate
26/06/2009 at 18:56

I don't really understand the medical implications. Unless you have already declared your ailments on the back of the number, surely people would put their own medical conditions on there? You don't apply for a marathon and give details of your medical history.

Someone point out why I'm being thick please.....

26/06/2009 at 19:16

I'm guessing they just had an attack of muppetry and put the wrong numbers on - if they knew each other, and were staying in the same place, it'd be pretty easy to get mixed up.

Speaking from experience, having actually worn the completely wrong number for a race.  What can I say - I'm easily confused, and I enter a lot of races, and I'm blonde (a major factor here)

Still - is Edinburgh chip timed?  It'd be pretty difficult to mix up numbers and chips

LIVERBIRD    pirate
26/06/2009 at 19:20

I can see why it would cause an issue for a geezer to win a top ten prize in a bird's category though......

But it does sound like they just mixed it up. They did both run.

I saw money exchanging hands at the Dublin expo with people selling their race numbers to folk in the foyer. You have to activate your chip by turning up and passing over the mat personally. Once you've got your number I wouldn't have thought anyone checks after that.....

LIVERBIRD    pirate
26/06/2009 at 19:22
Being banned for life from a marathon that fails to provide adequate water (for whatever reason) isn't necessarily a punishment either......
26/06/2009 at 19:38

Indeedy

Though to be fair a bunch of scoundrels did nick pallets of the stuff.

But still, banned for life does seem a bit extreme, but it doesn't stop them entering any other marathons out there so it's not really any kind of loss

LIVERBIRD    pirate
26/06/2009 at 19:43

They didn't nick even one bottle per runner though did they? It was still woeful....

How are you anyway honey?

26/06/2009 at 20:13

Banned for life from the Edinburgh marathon,gutted NOTTT! Lets face it theres plenty of others to run ,let the time fit the crime, this is very excessive Edinburgh bow your heads in shame

26/06/2009 at 20:29

I'm fine, well, knackered tbh - work is hectic at the mo, but hey, I've got wine and my dog's been to the groomers so he's not minging - result!

Hows yourself?

It does seem excessive, but there plenty of other places to run

26/06/2009 at 22:25
Having been involved in a race where someone died, the thought of having a collapsed or worse runner and no idea who they are, who are next of kin etc is too awful to contemplate - there are indeed plenty of other races, so if you don't have an entry for one race make sure you get yours in on time for another!
26/06/2009 at 22:41

From what I have been told, the girl was injured and gave her number and chip to a male club friend who ran in her place.   When they later learned that the male had finished in a prize winning ( female) position they,not their club, contacted the organisers to confess.   There was no intention to cheat, just save the wasting the £40 entry fee.   This happens all the time.     The organisers caim that it was "a medical catastrophe waiting to happen." is total nonsense. A collapsed runner would be treated no mater what their name or gender.  Identification is not the biggest priority

They could still enter Edinburgh under a false name if they were that desperate !

26/06/2009 at 23:47

or swap numbers with another runner! 

Edited: 26/06/2009 at 23:48
27/06/2009 at 00:38
Banned for life! Ha what bollocks. All you need is a number and chip to enter and I am sure there are many friends and family who could supply a name and address.

Fair enough if you have a serious medical condition (but in that case why are you running a bloody mara??) but for the vast majority of people the medical argument is stupid. If you are presented with a person who is collapsed do you say "hey number 1234 that is Sharon Smith a 140 year old female, shoot her in the head" or look at the runner and see that they are a 3 year old baby and act accordingly.
27/06/2009 at 06:11

So if someone wants to do this for the London marathon people on this forum all write "don't do that, if they find out you'll be banned for life", but if the Edinborough marathon enforces the same policy they're overzealous penpushers?

You lot are weird...

And as mentioned in the article, any race you run under a false name is punishable by the athletics body.
If Edinborough was the scottish championship, I'd imagine scottish athletics would be upset with their female results being compromised by this number swapping and sanction the offenders.

27/06/2009 at 21:50
LIVERBIRD wrote (see)

I don't really understand the medical implications. Unless you have already declared your ailments on the back of the number, surely people would put their own medical conditions on there? You don't apply for a marathon and give details of your medical history.

Someone point out why I'm being thick please.....


Most people don't fill in the back of the number. If a runner collapses, the only contact details the race organiser have are those from the entry form. There are several scenarios:

1)  The wrong family is told that their father/husband/son has died.

2) The wrong family, when contacted by phone provide a medical history for person A, which could prove fatal for person B if they are given medication to which they are allergic.

3) (the more likely scenario given the sex change) The medical people / race organisers etc have no idea who the person wearing the number is, and thus are unable to contact the next of kin. 

If you think it won't happen to you, think again. I speak from experience here, as I once ended up being taken to hospital after a race by an ambulance with its blue lights flashing - despite being very fit at the time.

27/06/2009 at 22:05
Do people really not fill the backs in? I've only been doing races a couple of years & always fill mine in.
27/06/2009 at 22:44

Glad to hear it kwilter. 

However, a lot of races still don't have the medical template on the back anyway.

Of those races that do, I would suggest that a significant number of people don't fill them in. 

27/06/2009 at 23:03

Why would a dedicated runner want to cheat ? for what purpose ? i love my sport and i do the best i can and from that i get my enjoyment.

If i was to collapse i want the paramedics to have the best chance of helping me by having the correct details on the back of my number.

And if i missed the entry date for an event there is always another race somewhere else. 

Whats difficult about it all ?

Its simples  !

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