Is this the end of Aussie domination?

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10/11/2008 at 14:27
..Just been slammed by India in the 4th test and have been second best since the start. Ian Botham thinks that England will easily beat them in the next  Ashes, no one to replace Warne,Mcgrath,Gilchrist, and Hayden is not the palyer of old.What do you reckon? is this the end or can they bounce back?
PloddingOn    pirate
10/11/2008 at 14:30

I think teams have ups and downs.

Australia is one of those teams that can play badly for a couple months and bounce back and thump everyone.

10/11/2008 at 14:44
You need the personnel first.Who have they got coming through?
PloddingOn    pirate
10/11/2008 at 14:48

True.  Although, it's not like other countries.  They have a host of very good clubs to go though still. 

The reason Australia is so good at their sports is because they continually put money and effort into training people up.  Just because we don't always see the fruits of that, doesn't mean it isn't happening

10/11/2008 at 15:01
hope you're right.Hate to see their demise in cricket
PloddingOn    pirate
10/11/2008 at 15:02

I would too.  For slightly different reasons of course, but I doubt very much that this will be a permanent fixture in Australian cricket. 

I don't even think they would suffer too much from the credit crunch  

10/11/2008 at 18:25

I think the 2 upcoming series with SA will be a better indication of the demise of the Oz cricket team.  India always seem to raise their game when the Aussies visit (just ask Laxman) so their 1st test series defeat since 2005 might be a blip.

Mind you, I think they'll have problems replacing players who have retired.  Even the new blood (Katich, Jaques, Haddin, S Clark) aren't that young and their spinning attack is woeful. 

There is a suggestion that they might bring Warne back next summer though.

12/11/2008 at 11:48

Warne won't come back - a series of 20 over matches is a world apart from 5 test matches. I kind of hope he does though - would be pretty amazing.

 as for the blip / lack of personel argument / seeing Aussies demise... whilst I'd love to see them topple from the top of the tree I'd rather it were because someone else (ie England!) supercedes them rather than they go into decline like the Windies have been doing for 15 years or whatever.

 Hard to see how they can possibly be as consistent a force though. THe strangest thing about their series in india is that their strong batting line up was so poor - only 2 of them averaged over 40. Lack of Warne and McGrath and a weaker bowling unit is understandable but they must be concerned about the batting...

 AGree with the post re SA though. Playing in Subcontinent isn't always a great signifier - tosses are so crucial. OK, you still have to bat well but India won 3 out of 4 tosses (winning the match twice) and in the other game (the first test) Australia won the toss and dominated for most of the game. Give me a grassy drying English wicket in May any day!

12/11/2008 at 11:55
No more Warne please - I've had enough of him. McGragh on the other hand - I think he was a proper sportsman.
PloddingOn    pirate
12/11/2008 at 12:05

I think the other thing that is where the Northern and Southern Hemisphere differ so much is that NH tend to place a lot of emphasis on one player and expect them to bail the team out.  SH isn't that focussed on only one player - they retire, they get replaced

12/11/2008 at 12:21
That's because SH has more good players on the teams.
PloddingOn    pirate
12/11/2008 at 12:23

I woudl tend to agree 

12/11/2008 at 12:25
Naturally! How many hours now?
PloddingOn    pirate
12/11/2008 at 12:29

77 hours and 30mins

Although 3 days sounds better 

PS  I kept forgetting to tell you and I just remembered - my phone gets switched off from Monday, 17th November

12/11/2008 at 12:31

Yep days is good. 

 I was debating asking you for the fourth time but figured I'd just head to the bars and yell your name really loudly!

Edited: 12/11/2008 at 12:31
PloddingOn    pirate
12/11/2008 at 12:33

Yeh I would be the one in fancy dress, shrieking loudly and uncontrollably as I pissed off all UK residents

12/11/2008 at 12:41
So that'd be different to normal because...... of the dress?
Bouncing Barlist    pirate
12/11/2008 at 12:42
Has she gone yet, can we all start talking about how nice she was?
12/11/2008 at 12:48
How *splutter* what she was?
12/11/2008 at 12:48
Ps. Do you know if they have Internet in SA? Think they are still only getting land lines but...
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