Dealing with dog owners

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08/11/2012 at 22:05

I'm in Manchester, but thanks for the offer

I don't have any friends close by who have dogs. A problem with living in the city centre I guess. A friend of a friend helped a lot on a camping trip this summer - the dog was massive and I was terrified at first, but they held him whilst I stroked him, and it wasn't too bad (the beer before hand helped me give it a go!). By the end of the day I could even throw a frisbee for him.

If I could find a course which covered this kind of sensitisation and something about doggy behaviour that would be ideal. I'll keep searching.

My 3 year old nephew had a sandwich pinched once. It happened so quickly we barely knew what had happened.

 

 

09/11/2012 at 08:52

Yesterday morning just finishing my run and going the last 100 yards to my house, out of a door come 3 whippets snapping and snarling (no eye contact needed to make them think I might be aggressive!), I turned and faced them and to be honest not particularly bothered because if I wanted to could have quite easily kicked the sh1t out of them, but what if it had been a young child.  Dog owner came out and said oh I am so sorry, I thanked her for her kindness

09/11/2012 at 09:15

I tend to pick routes that stay away from dog walkers. I give them a wide berth because some owners don't have control over their dogs so I don't want to get tangled up in the lead and trip over. I'm fortunate that most of the dog walkers I encounter are pretty considerate. Ocassionally certain breeds will snap but having had dogs as pets my whole life I know that they usually just feel threatened so I'll just get pissed off for a moment, swear, then get over it.

I think shouting "FUCK!" is a good way to vent as it is more of an annoyance at the situation and not a direct attack at the dog or it's owner. I don't want to waste time discussing their incompetence, I'm trying to get a good run in.

09/11/2012 at 19:36
lardarse wrote (see)
kittenkat wrote (see)
 

 Unfortunately it's not the dog's fault, you are right it's the owners. But so many people take on a dog with no idea or inclination to train it properly.

 

Strangely Brown wrote (see)

Really can't advocate abusing the animal in any way, they are just doing what comes naturally, it's the onwers who are 100% at fault.

Some dog owners are just damned inconsiderate, unfortunately.

At what point does it become an animals fault? That it's a dogs natural begaviour to attack and kill other animals it deems weaker isn't a very good excuse for their behaviour. It's not the owners fault that dogs are genetically encoded to kill. Yes some owners exacerbate the problem, but the fact remains that dogs are cold blooded killers.

No one would put up with a human behaving like a dog, they'd be fined, jailed and in some countries exterminated.

 

 

 

I love dogs! lmfao

At what point does it become the dog's fault you ask?

Why do you want to make it the dogs fault?  Do you want to lock it up for 6 months?  Make it do some community service?  Bit of litter collecting or painting your park fence?  Do you want to sue that little guy out of every fluffy toy and tennis balls he owns?

Dogs. when trained right, handled right and under the command of an owner who knows what he is doing is a respectful,  obediant and calm companion.  Errant dogs are a result of terrible ownership on 99.9% of occaisions (a lot like terrible humans are).  So if a dog runs at you, jumps at you or chases you, he's doing it usually because it's fun.  He isn't trying to harm you.  Human's are not prey for dogs.  A properly trained and controlled dog will not chase you.  An improperly controled one, will.  So of course the responsibility is with the owner, he is the master and the superior intellect.  It's he who teached the animal the rules, the dog is designed to follow them.  I'm not sure what it says about you that you want to blame the pet and not the owner, it seems peculiar to me.

Do you think this way about humans too?  If a child was to hit you, would you blame the child and not the parenting?  If a Spaniard happened to punch you ona  night out, would you form ridiculous prejuduces against all Spaniards based on one experience?

Dogs might be cold blooded killers but not of humans.  They love us, most do not want to harm us.  I don't know the stats but i'd be very confident in saying that fewer humans die at the hands of a dogs on a pro-rata basis than they do at the hands of their fellow humans. 

It's humans that hate humans, not dogs, unfortunately.

09/11/2012 at 20:08
Strangely Brown wrote (see)
lardarse wrote (see)
kittenkat wrote (see)
 

 Unfortunately it's not the dog's fault, you are right it's the owners. But so many people take on a dog with no idea or inclination to train it properly.

 

Strangely Brown wrote (see)

Really can't advocate abusing the animal in any way, they are just doing what comes naturally, it's the onwers who are 100% at fault.

Some dog owners are just damned inconsiderate, unfortunately.

At what point does it become an animals fault? That it's a dogs natural begaviour to attack and kill other animals it deems weaker isn't a very good excuse for their behaviour. It's not the owners fault that dogs are genetically encoded to kill. Yes some owners exacerbate the problem, but the fact remains that dogs are cold blooded killers.

No one would put up with a human behaving like a dog, they'd be fined, jailed and in some countries exterminated.

 

 

 

I love dogs! lmfao

At what point does it become the dog's fault you ask?

Why do you want to make it the dogs fault?  Do you want to lock it up for 6 months?  Make it do some community service?  Bit of litter collecting or painting your park fence?  Do you want to sue that little guy out of every fluffy toy and tennis balls he owns?

Dogs. when trained right, handled right and under the command of an owner who knows what he is doing is a respectful,  obediant and calm companion.  Errant dogs are a result of terrible ownership on 99.9% of occaisions (a lot like terrible humans are).  So if a dog runs at you, jumps at you or chases you, he's doing it usually because it's fun.  He isn't trying to harm you.  Human's are not prey for dogs.  A properly trained and controlled dog will not chase you.  An improperly controled one, will.  So of course the responsibility is with the owner, he is the master and the superior intellect.  It's he who teached the animal the rules, the dog is designed to follow them.  I'm not sure what it says about you that you want to blame the pet and not the owner, it seems peculiar to me.

Do you think this way about humans too?  If a child was to hit you, would you blame the child and not the parenting?  If a Spaniard happened to punch you ona  night out, would you form ridiculous prejuduces against all Spaniards based on one experience?

Dogs might be cold blooded killers but not of humans.  They love us, most do not want to harm us.  I don't know the stats but i'd be very confident in saying that fewer humans die at the hands of a dogs on a pro-rata basis than they do at the hands of their fellow humans. 

It's humans that hate humans, not dogs, unfortunately.

 

Edited: 09/11/2012 at 20:09
09/11/2012 at 20:14

Damned if I can read anything previous suggesting why anyone would want to make it the fault of the dog. 

Maybe you should try reading the comments properly before em-barking on your emotional luv in with your fellow s..t machines.

As you no doubt know, treat a dog like a human and it will treat you like a dog.

That's why the f...g things show no respect to humans. It thinks we're just another dog.

Go do what they do. And don't forget to brush your teeth.

09/11/2012 at 20:41

Hi RicF,

    It's right there in the quoted post.  I'm happy with my reading skills, thanks mate.

    Unfortunately the rest of your post doesn't really make any sense so i've no idea how to respond to it.  Sorry.

09/11/2012 at 22:13

No idea how to respond to a post! 

I assumed you'rd just cock your leg and piss up it.

woof!

10/11/2012 at 07:15

  Made me chuckle.

Just to clear up any misunderstanding though, it's perfectly possible to like things without actually being them.  For example, you might like chicken but it doesn't necessarily make you a cock.

10/11/2012 at 11:13
Colin McLaughlin wrote (see)

The original poster was "spinning round in flipping circles trying to face them and be playful with them". He would have done better to stop moving entirely and simply stand still. By moving, he was exciting the dogs. He reacts so they react.

Test it before you dismiss it, please. It's worked for me every time, over the last 30 years. You just stand completely still and the dog loses interest. Very very simple.

 


I was standing perfectly still for a good several seconds the moment I saw it charging from over 100 meters away.  It didn't lose interest, in fact it was trying to get behind me to nip the back of my legs.  Otherwise, I'd say the ones that lose interest are probably not so much of a threat anyway.  

Another 2 dogs gave me grief a couple of minutes later...these were even on a long lead but the owner couldn't hold them back even though I gave them a very wide birth!

Every situation is different and my reaction is different each time.  The only thing I need to change is making it clear to the owners that I'm unimpressed with their lack of control.  Problem with that is, after catching up with the responses here it seems half the dominant leaders are the dogs!  Maybe I need to learn doggie language!   ...GRRRRHHHHHH....that will teach them!


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