Does anyone else not use a training plan?

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30/05/2014 at 17:24

I see so many people asking about training plans on here and I have tried myself to stick to one but I end up just going out when I get the chance.

Some weeks I might run short distances to work. Some I might do longer distances at home. All practically at the same pace apart from longer than 10k runs.

I'm not great but I am usually in the to 10-20% maybe in races. I did join a club but can't be structured due to other commitments. 

Plus might be just me but I tend to just enjoy going out when I feel like it.  Id love to get under 40 for a 10k but feel that I would have to become much more structured in terms of doing slow runs/intervals etc

30/05/2014 at 17:41

Yes, loads of people. They probably don't talk about it as much though because there are fewer details to fine-tune in discussion with others!

I used to just run when I felt like it (most days, 4-7 miles, whatever pace I felt like) but then follow a 10-week plan leading up to a target race. Maybe that would be a good compromise if you want to get a 10k PB but also spend most of your time just doing what you feel like.

30/05/2014 at 17:48

To be fair I struggle sticking to a 1 week plan, let alone 10 weeks.

Building up to a race I just make sure I increase my mileage and get some speed work in, thats about how far my structure goes, not very professional.

I think I just like running and I like going faster but I don't have the dedication to stick to a plan. Maybe I'm just doomed to forever be outside 40 mins

30/05/2014 at 19:23
I think training structure doesn't have to be all or nothing. For instance, you could make the first run of each week a tempo run and the second intervals. That way, the most important types of run get done each week.

Or perhaps do a distance, then a tempo, then a speed session. Go through them in order. When you've time, you'll do all 3 in 5 days. When you're busy, it will take a couple of weeks.

You can improve if you're prepared to put SOME structure to your training. Looked at another way, you will be making the most out of the time that you DO have ??????
30/05/2014 at 20:37

I don't use a plan but lots do. Its quite often a question of personality. Some need to be told what to do, even on their days off.

I used a plan simply to prevent myself getting injured. It worked beyond all expectations. 84 to 76 minutes for a HM in one year.

Now its day to day guess work. Plans are usually based on being able to recover from 'whats on the list'. If you cannot recover in time, the plan doesn't work.

30/05/2014 at 21:08

I run according to how I feel.  I have a few personal rules, ie sufficient rest days, tapering before longer races, trying not to overtrain etc.

However, I have entered my first marathon (which is April, 2015) and may follow a plan for that event, I will see how I go.

31/05/2014 at 20:56

I've followed training plans for certain races, I have to admit that my performance was pretty close to optimal for those races. Certainly saw good results.

Otherwise I have just run how I felt.

31/05/2014 at 21:01
I have done both but the best results have always come from following a plan. I'm much better when I have something to focus on.
01/06/2014 at 07:05

I don't have a set plan but aim to tick certain boxes each week (e.g. a long run, 2 x sessions, approx 40 miles total). How I achieve that tends to alter each week which keeps the fun in it I guess

01/06/2014 at 08:49

The problem I find with plans is that they are 'one size fits all'. As a 49 year old woman, my training needs are going to be very different from a man in his twenties. I managed 3:50 at VLM this year, but did not follow a plan as I find I need to factor in recovery from my lsr. I agree that you need a mix of lsr, threshold and speed work, each week, but real life gets in there as well, so fit the runs in around everything else.  Plans also do not take into account if you pick up a slight niggle and want to take it easy for a day or so to recover. 

01/06/2014 at 10:46
True. I always have some element of flexibility when following a plan to allow for niggles, work etc.
02/06/2014 at 10:25

I have spent ages over the years devising training plans leading up to races, and then ignoring them.  No point in planning a 5 mile easy run when you only have a half hour window that day.

I like some of the suggestions here though - 3 key sessions a week and it doesn't matter too much when you do them (keeping an eye on recovery).  Stick the list on the fridge, choose the one you fancy that day, and off you go.  I could do that!

02/06/2014 at 10:55

I use a training plan but mainly use it to pick up training/interval sessions as a rough guide to the type of running I should be doing tempo, speed, brick, endurance but I then try to structure my week based on how I feel. To me a training plan is just that a plan of what you ideally will do if everything is going well work, commitments, body niggles, tiredness all need to play a part when implementing the plan so it is good to have a plan but much better to use your own judgement to adapt this if you need during the week.

02/06/2014 at 18:24
I don't use one, struggling to get out on regular days due to work and family life. I'd like to get under 40min 10km too but I don't want it enough to make the necessary sacrifices at the moment. I just enjoy running and less keen on time tabling.
seren nos    pirate
02/06/2014 at 18:26

I think you need to be flexible.

I don't follow a plan.i don't even do a weekly plan.....I do try and have some aims in a month though

03/06/2014 at 12:32

I work standing up for around 50 hours per week currently, so planning would be foolish. Recovering from work is just as essential as recovering from running, as a newbie I'm not sure currently which is the more gruelling activity. I just go out 3-4 times a week and enjoy running, moving my distances and mileage along over time. I'm pretty sure once I find out more about my limits and recovery a flexible structure will generate automatically.

Edited: 03/06/2014 at 12:33
04/06/2014 at 11:13

I think most people do actually have some kind of plan, even if it's not an official one.  I only started running to a proper plan when doing my first marathon, but I ran with aims and goals and an idea of which days I was going to run and how far I wanted to go. I can't imagine there are many people who just run on a whim, not when they have race aims in mind.  Either running is a purely enjoyable thing that you do with no quest or purpose, or you do something to quicken your race times, which will involve sticking to some kind of routine or at least some thought-through processes.

For what it's worth, I have found running to a plan has greatly improved my performance, as running sessions based on my own knowledge are so much more limited than the wealth of experience that the people writing the plans have.  If I were aiming at something in particular I would now always look for a plan, but feel ready to be flexible with it if it didn't work for me or something came up to prevent me following it to the letter.  I am the kind of person that likes being told what to do though 

04/06/2014 at 13:21

Ive never been one for training plans, just run wild and free. ha ha. I was getting bored of running though so I joined a local running club. Theirs a different session each week (temp, interval, hills etc) so I guess im getting a structured and varied training plan by default. 

Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
07/06/2014 at 18:40

Like Nessie, I used to write up a training plan at the beginning of the year and end up not really following it. Instead of making a set time/day for everything, I have found it works for me better if I just write down the workouts for each week and pick the days I do each one according to the other demands on my time. That way I end up actually doing all or more of the week's total training. As a triathlete I do of course have to cross train but it works ok as I commute by bike some days in the week (32km each way). Running is almost a daily thing when I get home as our two dogs need to go out, so I run with them, killing 2 birds with one stone so to speak. Tri club swim training takes place 3 evenings a week so again I can choose to go Monday, Thursday, Friday, or all three. That leaves me the choice of taking the dogs to dog club training, Tuesday or Thursday evenings and Saturday afternoons. Plus there's other things you can do,  any chores such as posting a letter, run to and from the post office. Taking the car for service or repair is another opportunity - take it to the garage and run home, then run back to get it when it's finished. Lots of ways to ramp up your training. If what I have to do is a reasonable distance then I'll bike there and back using a rucksack.

Edited: 07/06/2014 at 18:42
09/06/2014 at 13:05

Running is a simple sport why make it complicated? Just get out  there and run. It does not matter if it is a mile, 2 mile, 5k, 10k, 10 miler, HM, Marathon or Ultra Marathon race. Big deal if you train for it or not. Just get out there and run!

Lots of runners get stressed out about missing a training run or fitting in enough miles or worries about Where is the fine in that? Just get out and run! No wonder there are lots of so called experts cashing in on people's fear of failure or fear of potential injury. Just get out there and run!

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