Entry Fees

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09/05/2013 at 14:11

We recently recieved the below letter and it got us talking. Let us know your thoughts.

"June’s star letter riled me up. My local gym and pool have reduced rates for the unemployed, and you'd like racing to as well? How about a reduction for working 40 hours a week, raising two kids, paying my dues and still training? Race prices should be equal!"

 

 

seren nos    pirate
09/05/2013 at 14:15

agree that there should be no reductions .......it would be a nightmare to organise with proof of benefits etc......and the reduction for those eligible would mean higher prices for those paying...

 everyone has different incomes and different outgoings....you enter the races that you  can afford or think are value for money......

the biggest cost is usually fuel to get to the races to start with....

09/05/2013 at 14:20

when I saw the other letter in june's issue I assumed it was either a joke or from a nutter and couldn't believe you'd published it, let alone made it letter of the month. glad you did though as there's nothing like a good old fashioned overreaction to brighten my day

09/05/2013 at 14:21

I thought June's *star* letter was asking for fees to be increased with age groups, ie older runners pay more?

09/05/2013 at 14:21

Reduced rates at the pool or gym are probably due to Local Authority subsidies.  If the LA was to subsidise race fees then far enough, but that is the decision of the LA.

Pudge    pirate
09/05/2013 at 14:23

Whether my entry fee is subsidising the cost of entry for the next person doesn't really concern me, as long as I am getting value for money myself.

In other words, my assessment of 'value' will be based on what I get from the race, not on how what I have paid compares with someone else.

This sort of attitude is pretty sad to see really.  It's like the withdrawal of child benefit for high earners.  a lot of those that lost it seemed more bothered that their next door neighbours got to keep it, than the fact that it was taken away from them.

If subsidised entry fees get more people involved in running, cycling, whatever, then I think it's a good thing.

09/05/2013 at 14:24

I don't mind giving reduced rates for off-peak, but if my gym gave reduced rates for anyone with the same mebership as I have, I'd expect to pay the reduced rate, or I'd cancel and leave, one price for all or it is unfair 

seren nos    pirate
09/05/2013 at 14:26

Pudge...if people can get the money to pay for running shoes then the entry fee isn't going to break the bank........

if its going to be based on earnings then maybe there should be lots of different price ranges.....goes up a £1 for every £10,000 you earn........

there are loads of very cheap LDWA for runners and Audax for cyclists.....and you do not have to race to do those sports....

the whole organisation of it would be a nightmare....

09/05/2013 at 14:27
Cinders wrote (see)

I thought June's *star* letter was asking for fees to be increased with age groups, ie older runners pay more?

it was. and also discounts for unemloyed and students. it wasn't clear what should happen with mature students though

seren nos    pirate
09/05/2013 at 14:29

maybe you should pay on the ;length of time on the course...............the longer you are out then you pay more ......might make another incentive to get a PB....

seren nos    pirate
09/05/2013 at 14:30

Can anyone explain the justification on why older runners should pay more......was it all all ages or did pensioners get a discount or something...

I'm confused as i have never heard anywhere that charges you more as you get older

 

Pudge    pirate
09/05/2013 at 14:34
seren nos wrote (see)

maybe you should pay on the ;length of time on the course...............the longer you are out then you pay more ......might make another incentive to get a PB....

I like this idea - great kick up the arse to get around the course quickly!

09/05/2013 at 14:42

SN, the writer was saying how races were full of older runners and I think they wanted a discount for younger ones to encourage them but also suggesting that the older the runner, the more they pay!

seren nos    pirate
09/05/2013 at 14:45

i don't think its the entry fee that puts off younger runners.they just have better things to do on the weekends like going oput clubbing and getting pissed.........they probably pay more money for one drink in a nightclub than they would on a rcae entry

09/05/2013 at 14:46

Gym memberships are a luxury. I can only just afford to stay a member at mine, but if I was unemployed it would be the first thing I'd be cancelling.

It's not elitist to say that the best facilities are only available to those that can pay. I'm a member of a council-run gym, but there's better gyms well out of my reach.

If you can't afford a gym, buy some cheap weights and some running shoes. If you can't afford race entry fees, stick to Parkrun and social running with friends. There are good value races out there, and in most cases a further discount would be to the detriment of the investment and organisation that clubs and individuals are able to put into them.

Swimming is slightly different however, as it's not like you can leave your house in trunks and immediately go swimming. The old borough council pool I learned at had 20p entry for kids and 30p for adults in the late-80s. The local pool to me now wants £6+ a swim. Swimming genuinely has become a luxury where it was once seemingly a right.

09/05/2013 at 14:48
seren nos wrote (see)

Can anyone explain the justification on why older runners should pay more......was it all all ages or did pensioners get a discount or something...

I'm confused as i have never heard anywhere that charges you more as you get older

 

the writer of the letter claimed that the average age at races is 35, maybe 40 because younger people are priced out as organisers target lycra clad cash rich 40 plus year olds and in a few years there'll be very few under 25s racing. basically RW published a complete nonsense letter

seren nos    pirate
09/05/2013 at 14:50

thanks gatters........nothing new there then 

09/05/2013 at 14:51

Running races are different to local authority run gyms. The latter are a business and by offering off peak discounts to unemployed/pensioners etc means the facilities are used more.
Road races are for the most part volunteer run. A staggered array of fees would add another headache to what is already an admin heavy task.
Pudge - as for loss of child benefit, I think the biggest gripe is that it is on one salary rather than household salary, i.e, one parent working earning 60k, no child benefit. Both parents working, earning 49k (household income 98k), full child benefit.

seren nos    pirate
09/05/2013 at 14:53

and the two person household will pay a lot less tax on their joint income than the single household.......

09/05/2013 at 14:59

I'm thinking of asking for a discout at my next race if I promise not to use the water station

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