Flirty women are blamed for rape

This makes my blood boil!

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21/11/2005 at 17:08
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21112005/140/flirty-women-blamed-rape.html

There are some women who are stupid and put themselves in a position where they have been raped and in hindsight have turned round and realised what they could have done to avoid it.

There are some occasions when a silly women may cry rape when in actual fact she was quite willing and able. Disturbed women like this to exist.

However it is men who are to blame for rape.
21/11/2005 at 17:09
I was astonished that this logic still exsists.

There are some bloody stupid/disturbed women out there, some need to take responsibility for there actions but FFS!
M...eldy    pirate
21/11/2005 at 17:13
there was a discussion on R2 earlier today and some lady was saying that because the publics perception is that 'flirty' women are asking for it that it is changing the way that jurys react to rape cases and only a very small percentage of men brought to trial for rape are actually found to be guilty and therefore even less are getting through the CPS in the first place.
21/11/2005 at 17:14
A friend of mine went on trial for rape by a woman who was very willing indeed, but got scared when her boyfriend (who he didn't know about) found out about their encounter, so cried rape. However, his name was all over the local rag (despite being found not guilty by a mile) and she got away without a whisper. How fair is this? Discuss.

21/11/2005 at 17:14
Grrrrrr.

I wonder how many of the 30% who belive this are women?

There are very very few cases where a woman has sex with a bloke then thinks her boyfriend/husband might find out, so cries rape. And very very occasionally, someone may accuse someone of rape to punish them for something.

But I agree Wolfy - rape is the fault of the perpetrator, not the victim.

21/11/2005 at 17:14
Nelle I think what really annoys me is that if these stats are to be believed then a woman cannot safely go out looking sexy and feeling good about herself without sick oversexed men thinking that she's there to be taken!

I don't think that this is going to help the fact that so many women do not report rape as it is!
21/11/2005 at 17:15
Not fair at all, Coops, and it's women like her who make it so difficult for women who have been raped to come forward.
21/11/2005 at 17:16
I'll admit, that as a grumpy oldish woman, i do sometimes look at the way young women dress/behave & think, Jesus, you are so asking for trouble....but that doesn't mean I think they should be attacked/raped etc.

Does that make sense?
21/11/2005 at 17:16
Nessie - nail on the head.
21/11/2005 at 17:18
Islam would argue this is a consequence of the decadence of western society.

Discuss.
21/11/2005 at 17:18
Coops that is an awful story it really is and there isn't a woman I know that would find any sympathy at all for that woman and who wouldn't be very sympathetic to the bloke.

However I rather suspect that the instances, as Nessie says, of that happening are very small compared to the amount of rapes that go unreported.

We need to encourage women to report these attacks and if the police are thorough and gather evidence quickly and competently then I'm sure evil women who are lying will be found out.
21/11/2005 at 17:19
Sort of Nelle. A woman should be able to go out naked if she wants, and be taken at her word if she says no to sex. But yes, knowing that there are some men out there who think that if your skirt doesn't cover your knees that you are gagging for it, some styles of dressing should be carefully considered.

But that still doesn't excuse rape in any way.
21/11/2005 at 17:20
"I wonder how many of the 30% who belive this are women"

I think the scottish metro reported something like 1 in 3 women surveyed, and 1 in 5 men. I could be wrong, it's only half remembered from a disgusted glance this morning.
21/11/2005 at 17:22
Yes Nelle that does make sense to be honest as I'm 36 and I look at some young girls and think flippin heck is that a skirt or a belt! However it shouldn't matter men should leave well alone regardless of how somebody dresses.

I don't see a gorgeous chap in a bar and automatically think that I can go to bed with him so why should a man presume the same?

I think that if a man does feel threatened by the possibility of a woman potentially crying rape when she's actually consented then maybe he should leave his 'todger' in his pants and take the woman out and get to know her first. Now there is a novel idea ;-)
21/11/2005 at 17:22
My daughter is a nurse & when the girls start their training, they are almost ordered not to wear their uniform out of the hospital perimeters, esp. at night, in case they are taken for stip-o-grams or seen as "asking for it".

Coops, your friend has my sympathy- i don't think any one in a rape case should be named.
21/11/2005 at 17:22
Wolfy - agree wholheartedly, and don't think anyone wouldn't. Rape can never be excused in any form. But that is an example of a male not only being the victim, but also nearly going to prison for 10 years because of it!

Nessie - I'd like to see some of these women going out naked. I must live in the wrong place?!
21/11/2005 at 17:25
1. We have absolutely no idea of how this survey was worded, so we can't conclude anything - what if it said "Which woman you think a rapist would be most likely to attack - (a) a woman dressed in a revealing way, (b) a woman dressed soberly or (c) no difference"? If it said "Are women who dress in a revealing way partly to blame for rape?" you would get a completely different result, yet it's all the same to the media. You simply cannot make the logical leap to blame being apportioned - newspapers and vested interests will write stuff that they think makes a story, so don't believe what you read.

Also, it is not men who are to blame for rape. It is rapists. Yes, I am offended.
21/11/2005 at 17:29
Would that not imply that there is no such thing as rape amongst Islamists, BR?
21/11/2005 at 17:31
Are rapists not men?

21/11/2005 at 17:32
I've heard of a women rapist before to be fair.
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