Is 13:38 a competitive 5k time for 16 year old

Wondering whether or not I should seriously take up running

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seren nos yn canu    pirate
24/06/2013 at 18:33
Matt Bratovich wrote (see)
Screamapillar wrote (see)

I bet none of you lot would want to race Matt's dad - imagine! 

 

 -----------------My Father was actually a Marathon runner back in his day, before he   blew his knee out. He's also very old so running isn't his thing anymore!

I woke up this morning as stiff as I have ever felt, so I feel very doubtful that I can come close to my time Today, or Tomorrow! Soon though I will give it a shot! And I will re-familiarize myself with the metric system just to be sure 

Also not quite sure how to get out of this quoting box...lol, as you can tell I'm new to forums.

 

 

 

wow.don't tell me he is over 40

24/06/2013 at 18:59

Matt - promise when you realise the mistake you will tell us what it was.  

24/06/2013 at 19:03

Can't believe how sceptical you lot are. First shattering Tom Chinery's dreams, now this. Tsk.

24/06/2013 at 20:05

Is your real name Barry Allen?

24/06/2013 at 22:06

On the edge of my seat! 

24/06/2013 at 22:14

All the usual suspects have been hooked into this thread, it's like the RW Stasi!

At least Matt is following the more classic approach of quoting some hilariously impossible training time.

The boy Chinery favoured the less common "what he will do" approach.

Both have their ridiculous merits though.

24/06/2013 at 23:17

Stevie... Did you see the Alex Vero documentary? 

It was a few years ago, but I only saw it last week. He went from zero to 1:13 HM in a very short space of time... I'm thinking Master Chinery could actually do it! 

I think if we didnt have jobs, that 70 min HM wouldn't be so elusive. 

Edited: 24/06/2013 at 23:19
24/06/2013 at 23:36

Nah, Tom C's got a job now, Tim. I'm pinning all my hopes on Matt instead.

25/06/2013 at 06:25

This is a great thread

25/06/2013 at 06:44

Tim: Alex Vero, ah a 'comedy classic' from the past

The dad and mothers races at school sports day. Lets be honest Olympic Finals are less intense.

25/06/2013 at 06:45

Tim, was it from zero? And he got to 73.48 at Amsterdam, which even with huge mileage, no work, and a support team,  is still a heck of a distance from 69.59.

And his aim was an even sillier attempt to become elite, or qualify for a major champ wasn't it, something that makes our man Chins seem sensible in his aims.

25/06/2013 at 07:10

Stevie: I think it was to run in 2012 Olympic Marathon from memory...

Edited: 25/06/2013 at 07:10
25/06/2013 at 07:13

Stevie: Found the classic Vero thread and bumped it. It's over in Training.

25/06/2013 at 08:45

oh yes, I remember now.

Instead of "fat boy to sub 1hr 14" which would have been an incredible achievement and full respect from all, he instead evokes memories of setting a foolish target and failing miserably.

Quite harsh in fairness as sub 1hr 14 is still a quality time! I doubt too many on this thread have done one, PP and Deano, not sure too many others.

25/06/2013 at 08:48

Stevie; His thread certainly sparked 'an intense debate a few years ago.

25/06/2013 at 08:57
Stevie G . wrote (see)

oh yes, I remember now.

Instead of "fat boy to sub 1hr 14" which would have been an incredible achievement and full respect from all, he instead evokes memories of setting a foolish target and failing miserably.

Quite harsh in fairness as sub 1hr 14 is still a quality time! I doubt too many on this thread have done one, PP and Deano, not sure too many others.

 

Yes, that's how I saw it too.

The guy had all the support and time to train though. 

25/06/2013 at 09:22

To be honest I never managed a 74 half let alone a sub 74 half failing miserably with 75:04, never even broke 2:40 so I shouldn't really criticise the lad for his aspirations. and my modest times are so far in the distant past we had some decent marathon runners!!!!

25/06/2013 at 10:21

I think the Alex Vero story is a classic of the genre, and should be required reading for anyone giving it the Billy-Big-Bollocks in the future!  On the one hand, what he did achieve was pretty impressive, yet his HM still "only" puts him in the same league as many, many good club runners, still a world away from the exceptional club runner managing sub-70, let alone his own Olympic aspirations, which would've required more like sub-63.

That's another common theme to a lot of these posts - people's complete lack of appreciation of non-linear race time progression!!  If you think the performance gap between 85 and 90 mins is the same as that between 80 and 85, 75-80, 70-75, etc. then you really need to start thinking a lot smarter, and maybe pay attention to rankings!  Maybe they should start teaching logarithms in school again. 

25/06/2013 at 10:45

Phil it goes back to Charlie Spedding's biography, in which he said he was constantly being asked what runners could do to improve and his secrets - no one was interested in the 16 years training he had done ahead of winning the London marathon and his Olympic Bronze.

25/06/2013 at 11:04

Grendel: that's unfair to CS; I'm sure he told them to avoid cottage cheese, because only fat people seem to eat it, which is pretty sound advice.  The improvements I've made to my running since stopping eating cottage cheese are exceptional.

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