Is 13:38 a competitive 5k time for 16 year old

Wondering whether or not I should seriously take up running

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26/06/2013 at 22:46

Here it is; not my best time, but now I know the full affects of having a bit of dairy an hour before running this   distance is measured in Miles btw which is why distance is "3.1" SORRY I know It's not a good quality picture, the lighting in the gym was  dark! 14:05

http://i42.tinypic.com/v3n15l.jpg

 

Edited: 26/06/2013 at 22:47
26/06/2013 at 22:53

I could 'run' a 2:10 mara by sticking the tready on 20kph then going to the bar.........

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26/06/2013 at 22:54
Matt - your treadmill needs recalibrating.
26/06/2013 at 22:55
Looks legit to me.
See you in Rio Matt!
26/06/2013 at 23:14

Questions....

Where exactly do you live matt? (not literally your address, just country, region)

Is that treadmill your own or a in a proper gym? How old is it?

How did you feel at various stages of the run, particularly say the last 800 metres?

How did you warm up?

Did you run it at exactly the same pace from start to end or grow into it?

Did you have the machine running before you got going? It normally takes a tmill 10 secs to go from cold to that pace, so in reality you could knock 10 sec of that time for buttons.

26/06/2013 at 23:18

Go and get a race run, Matt.

Then post your link to the result here.

 

 

26/06/2013 at 23:19

oh.... and are you sure that you haven't run 3.1k, as that time for that distance for a young beginner would stack up!

My phone would take a fairly crystal clear pic of the tmill stats, have done it before. your pic looks unfeasibly poor, even taking acct lighting, just use the flash!

26/06/2013 at 23:32

the calories are reading 22? 

220 calories that's about right for 3k isn't it?

26/06/2013 at 23:43

Where exactly do you live matt? (not literally your address, just country, region)

Houston, Texas Area 

Is that treadmill your own or a in a proper gym? How old is it?

It's In a Gym, not sure how old but it looked pretty new, maybe a year or two

How did you feel at various stages of the run, particularly say the last 800 metres?

The First 2500 were fine. I would say the roughest patch was 2500-4200 because It's where I fatigue the most and It feels like there's so much more to go. I breathe fast here. The last 800 Is where I tend to speed up because it's kind of like "Finally I'm almost done, let me see how well I can do" type of feeling.  I kind of put my fatigue at the back of my mind and I really focus on results. At the end It's pretty awful hah, I chuge a bottle of water and I give myself a few minutes before I try to move anywhere, I can't walk 100% right after It's over. Probably lack of Oxygen!

How did you warm up?

It stretches over a few days. The days leading up to it I run shorter, quick distances. The farthest I would say I run in these few days is a mile, while the shortest is probably around 800-1000 meters. The Day of I don't do a lot special just drink a bottle of water beforehand, and like 3 minutes of leg stretchs 

Did you run it at exactly the same pace from start to end or grow into it?

Averaged 13.5 mph all the way up to the last minute or two I bumped it closer to 14 mph

Did you have the machine running before you got going? It normally takes a tmill 10 secs to go from cold to that pace, so in reality you could knock 10 sec of that time for buttons. Nah, I waited like 5 seconds and then I Just went. 

26/06/2013 at 23:54

ok, fairplay for answering, what doesn't stack up is your warm up. To hit that pace cold, even for a seasoned Olympian would be disasterous. Torn calfs/hamstrings, heart and lungs bursting.

27/06/2013 at 00:27

Matt you'll have to go out and run it on a track. Treadmills are not reliable. There are several in my gym and I'm getting to know which ones are faster/slower!

As for rowing/running crossover, I did the latter stages of this year's Concept Challenge and was best GB lady over 500m in my age group! I row about once/twice a month! And no, I'm not 90. 1.7m tall (so probably a bit short for a rower) but reasonable technique.

27/06/2013 at 07:53

Matt, you really need to get to a track.
Just one thing though, the image you sent says 3.1 ( we assume miles) why did you switch back from kms though, or did you do the calculations mentally:
"The First 2500 were fine. I would say the roughest patch was 2500-4200"
fast running and mental agility, top marks son.

For reference here is a link to the US track and field champs for 2013. http://www.usatf.org/2013OutdoorsResults.aspx  

senior men on Sunday, Lagat and Rupp just under 15 mins
junior men was won on the Friday in just over 15mins

Edited: 27/06/2013 at 08:00
27/06/2013 at 08:15
Dustin wrote (see)

Matt, you really need to get to a track.

 

^ This. It's important you get proper confirmation. Because if this is anywhere near accurate then you could well have a running career in front of you  - but you won't get it by running on a treadmill in a gym. You'll need a track and a coach.

If it isn't accurate - then at least you'll know for sure.

27/06/2013 at 08:27

Calories and distance don't tally Matt.

27/06/2013 at 09:15

Agree with SB, if you use a calories burned calculator http://www.runnersworld.com/tools/calories-burned-calculator

Then 220 equates to  3.1 km not 3.1 miles.

27/06/2013 at 09:18
Strangely Brown wrote (see)

Calories and distance don't tally Matt.


How do you know how many calories are reported? I could only see the first 2 digits, the rest are cropped

Womble wrote (see)

Matt you'll have to go out and run it on a track. Treadmills are not reliable. There are several in my gym and I'm getting to know which ones are faster/slower!

 

The treadmill could be under or over speed. My gym has 22 treadmills. They are all within about 2% of a calibrated footpod. GPS can be more inaccurate at times.

 

So I guess the only way this lot will be satisified is on the track, in which case we should rename the thread to "Is 13:38 a competitive 5000M time for 16 year old"

27/06/2013 at 09:22

I think I was the first to chime in with the calorie output.

The first two calorie digits were 22.

 

22 calories would be two few, 2200 would be too many.

 

so I guessed 22x?

 

 

27/06/2013 at 09:27
Screamapillar wrote (see)
Dustin wrote (see)

Matt, you really need to get to a track.

 

^ This. It's important you get proper confirmation. Because if this is anywhere near accurate then you could well have a running career in front of you  - but you won't get it by running on a treadmill in a gym. You'll need a track and a coach.

If it isn't accurate - then at least you'll know for sure.

Come on Screamy, there's no "if" to this.

A low 14 on a treadmill, with minimal warm up and not exactly smashing it? It makes that sub 17 5k woman with the tennis shoes look massively likely.

27/06/2013 at 09:27
Also-ran wrote (see)
Strangely Brown wrote (see)

Calories and distance don't tally Matt.


How do you know how many calories are reported? I could only see the first 2 digits, the rest are cropped

Womble wrote (see)

Matt you'll have to go out and run it on a track. Treadmills are not reliable. There are several in my gym and I'm getting to know which ones are faster/slower!

 

The treadmill could be under or over speed. My gym has 22 treadmills. They are all within about 2% of a calibrated footpod. GPS can be more inaccurate at times.

 

So I guess the only way this lot will be satisified is on the track, in which case we should rename the thread to "Is 13:38 a competitive 5000M time for 16 year old"

Well 22 would obviously be silly.  220-229 is what we assume is the figure and it isn't enough. 2200 is also silly.  Whatever the remaining digits are, they don't tally.

27/06/2013 at 09:28

wait...your not saying he ran  3.1 km not miles are you...which is v easy for a 16yr old to hit with no experience, decent warm up or background. 

Then that means he isnt currently one of the best athletes in the US and wouldnt have won gold at last years olympics.  i didnt see this coming, Damn we were so close to greatness for a short while  

Matt - 1 lap of your high school track will tell you (assuming it full size 400m) if you cant do it in 50 secs you are not the next big thing and it was the machine that was mistaken.

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