Isnt there an inherent flaw in the concept of a personal trainer?

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cougie    pirate
01/03/2013 at 11:56
It takes 2 to train. If the client isn't willing to be pushed that hard then you'd be stupid to get them doing a training session worthy of an Olympic contender.

Finding a level that the client is happy with and that gives them a benefit is the key.
And for most people - any activity is better than what they'd have done without knowing they're paying ??30 for the privilege of a trainer.
01/03/2013 at 11:56

Yep, think you've answered that.

01/03/2013 at 11:57

David I meant, not Cougie

01/03/2013 at 11:57

Thats like saying a driving instructor doesn't want their students to pass the driving test.

There are people out there who enjoy their jobs and want to see people acheive their goals. And if their clients acheive them then they as a PT have accomplished something too. Great, move on to the next one.

If they are half smart then they will be setting their clients the next challenge. When they've acheived that: next challenge. Next PB, next distance record.

Though I concede there will probably be a minority of cowboys out there milking people for all they are worth.

01/03/2013 at 12:15

"Though I concede there will probably be a minority of cowboys out there milking people for all they are worth."

Would that be IT contractors, who charge their clients a daily rate but spend their time  creating contentious threads on web forums?

 

01/03/2013 at 12:24
Come on...you are missing David's point here, which is he is fishing for someone who has a personal trainer to take offence at his remark he thinks they are lazy.

I wonder if anyone is that stupid that they will bite
Edited: 01/03/2013 at 12:24
01/03/2013 at 12:29

DR7, sorry I was a bit slow then ... has that one that DF3 hooked last week appeared back on the forurm, or has she been frightened off? 

01/03/2013 at 12:41
stutyr wrote (see)

Would that be IT contractors, who charge their clients a daily rate but spend their time  creating contentious threads on web forums?

I would agree with that, being an IT contractor myself!

Putting it into that context also, its like a programmer writing code he knows is going to have bugs in it long term forcing people to buy an upgrade every year. We refer to this as the Microsoft model.

01/03/2013 at 13:21

What about these guys who set themselves up as 'Life Coaches'?

 

 

01/03/2013 at 13:22
Quite a high proportion of PTs are also porn actors. Fact.
01/03/2013 at 13:23

ive met one of these 'life coaches' and he was driving round in a brand new car and had a nice suit to match!

somewhere along his career some idiots paid for his services 

01/03/2013 at 13:39
David Falconer 3 wrote (see)

While I was actually trying to make a point, in the back of mind I was hoping this would occur to ........ like stutyr said about the other girl who was on here who apparently had an 'ironman' trainer .... presumably he is better than a regular trainer.

I think you might have 'jumped the shark' chap. You'll have to move on to politics or something if you want to top your marathon 'running' thread.

01/03/2013 at 14:29
dean richardson 7 wrote (see)
Come on...you are missing David's point here, which is he is fishing for someone who has a personal trainer to take offence at his remark he thinks they are lazy.

I wonder if anyone is that stupid that they will bite

They would have, if you hadn't tipped them off! 

Edited: 01/03/2013 at 14:29
01/03/2013 at 14:41

I think I'd quite like to have a personal trainer. I am also quite lazy, though. Shit, am I proving David's 'point'?

seren nos yn canu    pirate
01/03/2013 at 14:43

I bet that lazy bones usain bolt has a personal trainer/ coach.

 he should stop being lazy and get an office job where he spends half the day of forums...

01/03/2013 at 14:43

01/03/2013 at 14:50

FWIW, I'd quite like to see a serious answer to this question.

If you're a personal trainer, what do you actually do? Is it just motivation, or is there more to it than that?

If you use a personal trainer, what do you get out of it? Why use a personal trainer rather than (say) join a running club?

01/03/2013 at 15:09

I think the reason behind the PT is like you say DF3 to be motivated into exercise!

when they have achieved 'their goal' most of them drop the P.T and go the way before i.e lazy!!

seren nos yn canu    pirate
01/03/2013 at 15:13

maybe confusing lazy with self motivated.............If i had the money i would have a personal trainer........would use one most days..so much easier that on your own and less thought........

but then I also prefer to run with a club than run on my own....same with cycling..

I find it hard to motivate myself to go out and train and definitely would not do yoga or core work without someone adviseing me and telling me what to do.......

so maybe i am just lazy......probably...but i personally think its a motivation and confidence thing.........

01/03/2013 at 15:20

Okay  - I am not a personal trainer but am half way through the training (stalled a bit now I am ironman training) - I have coached runners and have ETM, gym instructor and Coaching qualifications.  

 

I also have had personal trainers a lot in the past and some of my relatives use them on a regular basis so I think I can give a serious answer to this questions.

 

As a trainer - it's about motivation - I have never had to do it for the money (I have a normal job as well) it's always about the love of sport for me - so getting someone from instructed sessions into doing it for themselves is brilliant - that would be success for me - probably not the answer most trainers would give obviously as I would assume most have a financial need.  I know a lot of trainers though and nearly all of them have a genuine desire to pass on their love of exercise.

 

As a PT client - I always used them to encourage me in the areas I was least fond of. - As a runner I would always neglect my strength training and so used to get PT sessions just to force me to do weights.  

 

My sis is getting married soon - despite me giving her excellent tuition  she is going to a PT three times a week and will undoubtedly keep going till her wedding day and then stop.  She won't go back to being lazy as she is a gym goer - but the PT is just helping her be a bit more focussed at the minute and forcing  her to do a little bit more at a time when the gym work would probably go by the wayside with everything else she has on her plate. Two of her bridesmaids are also doing the same - in a desire to lose some weight before the wedding and will def go back to being couch potatoes afterwards.

 

My stepmum has a trainer twice a week all year round and has done for years  - wealthy 'lady who lunches' - enjoys the company and the exercise so why not. Any trainer who works with her has the dream client. I know a few ladies like her - they use the PT as a pal to work out with. 

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