Mr. Majestic wrote (see)
Nobody's perfect.But on balance I'm sure, through 'entertainment' and fund raising, he brought happiness to more people and in greater measure than sadness through any badness he may have done.
But on balance I'm sure, through 'entertainment' and fund raising, he brought happiness to more people and in greater measure than sadness through any badness he may have done.
Tell that to someone who had their childhood blighted, sullied and destroyed by an adult who imposed their sexual desires on them. A truly shocking, ludicrous comment.
As for the JS debate - all I can say is that its very easy, and cynical, to use suggestion, rumour and inuendo to drag someone's name through the mud with no real evidence and the guarantee of no come back from the person accused.
I've not read every post on this thread, and I have no knowledge or even suspicion about what JS may or may not have done to who, but I can't let one thing pass:
References to Colin Jackson and Rock Hudson, almost comparing them to a Gary Glitter and/or someone who allegedly might or might not have been a paedophile??? From my understanding (and I may be missing something, because I haven't bought a "newspaper" in about 7 years), Rock Hudson was outed as having been gay, and there is apparently some references in CJ's autobiography that may back up rumours that he is also gay.
There's a huge difference between being gay and being a paedophile - or have we rewound the best part of a century?
nessie...........it was just refferring how people can keep things secret for so many years.....nothing about what they were keeping secret.........
you are right that they are totally different things................but it amazing how people can keep secret things out of the media for so many years.........
if that fact is that they are gay then they should have the right to keep it secret if they wish
seren nos wrote (see)
because that is a fact that does not affect anyone else.........the same as if I wish to sleep with socks on or not or if i prefer to be spanked or whipped......it doesn't affect people life or job
If on the other hand your secret is to do with children or abuse of an adult without their consent...then you have no right to have that as a secret
no, i was being serious for once.
as said above there is nothing wrong with being gay, it is not equivalent to being paedophile or abuser so why the big secret?
i think all the secrecy and living a lie, wanting to be seen as being straight, is a bad example to young people who might be coming to terms with their sexual identity.
so why is it such a big deal if someone is outed?
skotty wrote (see)
seren nos wrote (see)if that fact is that they are gay then they should have the right to keep it secret if they wishwhy?
Sorry skotty, cross post.
I do think however that the person should ahve the right to chose. It doesn;t necessarily mean that they want to keep it secret as such, just that they don't want to discuss it. Thats no different to someone who may want to keep a new heterosexual relationship from their peer group - I know I didn't tell anyone about Mr CD until we'd been together for several months! It wasn't because I wanted to keep it secret, I just didn't see what business it was of anyone else.
why is it is public interest to know who katie price is sh@gging this week?
the secrecy is what is making it newsworthy.
Because it's got absolutely nothing to do with what said person does in their public life, and everything to do with the most intimate matters of what they get up to in their personal life, I would've thought.
why is it is public interest to know who katie price is sh@gging this week? the secrecy is what is making it newsworthy.
she wants this to be made public and is pushing it into the media............thats abig difference................yes there are people hooked on celebrity that want to read every detail of anyone who has ever been on tv...........
but doesn't mean they have a right..............they can settle for the details supplied by the attention whores and leave the kiss and tells of those who wish to remain away from the media
talking about the celebs, do you really believe that even now in the 21st century that it can really harm their career as actor or singer to be outed before they have achieved a certain status within their profession?
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