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13/11/2012 at 09:24

Morning all,

Off for a plod soon and it isn't raining for a change although it is rather dreary.

Derek, I see plenty of V60s in races and they're either ahead of me or running past me.  We have some very speedy over 60s on the RW forums and on this thread JJ and TE are speed monsters 

13/11/2012 at 11:22

Hi Derek and welcome to the thread. I agree with JJ and Red that there are still plenty of V60s racing, and that category is very competitive. It is also correct that most are club runners, who have been racing for many years and gone up through the age categories. I believe that is why the standard is so high, as we were racing in our 40s when the standard was much higher than today's. I am now in the 65-70 category and unfortunately, all those that I have raced against in my forties and fifties seem to have stopped, as I no longer see them in races. This does seem to contradict my statement that there are still plenty racing, and I do wonder whether some  started racing later in life, or perhaps I hadn't noticed them in the past as they had finished further back in the field. I am a great fan of the age grading formulae, as it enables me to compare my times, converted to a seniors time. I hope you will continue to contribute to this thread and keep running and racing.

I'm intending to go to the club session this evening, but will take it easy, as I don't want the calf to pull again.

13/11/2012 at 11:24

Three last night, though most annoyed that just half a mile from the office the headtorch rechargeable batteries packed up......running on a trail in the dark is not fun!!!
Did 4 miles this am to work, 8.25 warm up then 7.37-  7.18-  7.54 then staggered into the office.......speediest for some time. Trying to get some speed in the legs after too much plodding the last few weeks.

13/11/2012 at 11:43

Well I am in a funny position. I started doing a seriesof races this year - the Halewood 5k. Because I liked the race so much I ended up joining the club who put it on ( Knowsley Harriers ) a couple of months back after thirty odd years of writing 'unattached'. The things is I am the only v60 there so every time I line up for a new distance I set a new club v60 record. While I have always been a plodder, after the achiles blew up in June, I am currently a seriously slow plodder.

So on the one hand I am the v60 who is still running and who joined the club.. On the other hand, even for me, the times are seriously slow. So i keep flipping between 'this feels good' and 'this is embarassing'.

13/11/2012 at 15:14

LOL Derek, it's certainly not embarrassing that you still run in your 60s!  I bet you're still faster than me anyway.  Are you in Scouseland then?  My friend lives in Knowsley village and I used to live and work in Liverpool many years ago.

Mark, well done.  I've got to start my speedwork schedule next month but November is my recovery month.  Are you going to try to beat 4 hours next year?

13/11/2012 at 16:38

MCS, three sub 8 minute miles following your warm up mile is very impressive.

Edited: 13/11/2012 at 16:38
13/11/2012 at 16:52

Time to don  the head torch and jog home, not speeding home though..............

13/11/2012 at 18:25

Best comeback run so far .Did a 4.7 mile trail run which wasn't too bad underfoot and still felt reasonably strong at the finish. There's hope for me yet.

I ain't at all speedy. I have a feeling I won't see 7 minute miling again at my age except for short intervals.

13/11/2012 at 20:49

evening people

Hope you are all well

mcs very impressive sub 8 mins, what head torch do you recomend cause i want to do trail running but no idea which is the best,

im hoping to get out at the weekend to start the slow training, chest infection is nearly gone and can't wait to get out there,

13/11/2012 at 21:39

I lost my head torch. Bought a new one and got twofor the price of one from a BOGOF scheme. Inevitably the lost one then re-appeared so I now have three!.
get one that has AAA batteries. If you get one with a  "disk" type batteryit costs nearly as much as the torch to replace it.
Also try to get one with a headband that goes round and across the head. The ones with just a head band tend to slip down.

13/11/2012 at 22:02

JJ, sounds very encouraging, you are probably fitter than you thought.

Went to club session this evening and did 4 sets of 4 hill reps. with a jog recovery between sets. I didn't run as hard as I would normally, as I didn't want to injure the calf again. Thankfully, I had no problems and opted for the long run back. Total mileage was 6.6. I'm hoping to try out my new trail shoes tomorrow.

We've just heard that the pub  the club had booked for a Christmas Meal is shutting down at the weekend. We are now hoping that it's not too late to find another venue.

13/11/2012 at 23:37

You're right about the button-shaped batteries, those are flipping expensive.

My head torch has gone awol since the last house move.

14/11/2012 at 00:07
Still don't know how to do quotes on this ipad thing. Yes, the road to running recovery is paved with people trying to knock me off my bicycle. Not cycled since mid-August but doing lots of gym work - all cardio not weights. Bought a new hrm which is telling me what to do!
14/11/2012 at 00:12

Johnny J / Terence  Earney, I like the age graded too. I do the calculation on what times I could do at 35 and what times I can do now  (on a good day ) and see what the age grading throws up as a percentage. A 'run all day' pace of 8 minute mile at 35 seems to equate to a 9 minute 45 second pace at 60. How do you find the age graded formulas work for you ? Are they about right or do you find them pitched slightly high or slightly low ?

Redhead, Originally from N wales and I split my time between Liverpool and there nowadays. 42 years ago I came here to be a student for just the 3 years before going back.

 I had a look at your page and that is very impressive with the number of marathons and the ultras even without the knitting - I dont even like carrying a bunch of keys when I run.

14/11/2012 at 09:36

Morning all,

It's a glorious sunny day here and I really want to run but am taking a rest day as I've had to jiggle my schedule this week.  I'd better do lots of muck shifting as cross-training instead 

Derek, thanks.  I ran the inaugural Liverpool marathon last year and it was wonderful to see all our old haunts again.  I love the idea of a "run all day" pace of 8 minute miling - I'd be happy to run that pace for 30 minutes!  

Actually, now I've said that I realise that's exactly what I'm going to have to train towards if I ever want to beat my 1/2 marathon pb 

Womble, hello there!  I'm trying to be firm and not do VLM next year as I didn't get in via the ballot.  How about you?

TE, shame about your club meal as it might be difficult finding an alternative at this late date.

14/11/2012 at 09:42

Will check my head torch and let you know what make it is. In the car today for work reasons and cant remember......go for one with the highest lumens you can afford. Mine runs on three AAA batteries and I have rechargeable ones they are working well now I have sussed the charger I bought. Think mine was about £45 and is very comfortable to wear, you can adjust the beam to broad or a spot light its very good.

14/11/2012 at 14:50

Laserlens is my head torch. My desk calendar appropriate for all today.

Ageing seems to be the only available way to live a long life!


14/11/2012 at 14:54

Ran in my new trail shoes this morning for the first time, and ran a steady 4 miles. I don't think they will be as efficent as my previous pair, as when I got home and examined the soles, they were full of mud. The previous pair had the rubber lugs further apart, and therefore the mud didn't stick between them.

14/11/2012 at 15:23

What shoes you got Terence? I have inov8s but fancy some new ones for next year and the coming muddy season.

14/11/2012 at 16:16

They are Salomon Trail Pro 5. My old pair are Salomon Speed Cross 2 and I have run 500 miles in them. The new model is Speed Cross 3.

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