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09/12/2012 at 16:57

hello everyone 

not done much running last week due to bad weather but went out today and did 10 miles, certainly didn't feel as easy as as last weeks 9 miles, legs felt heavy right from the start not like last week where i felt strong, having tomorrow off but back to running 3 on tues, 4 wednes and 4 thurs, and a long run sat or sun, gonna stick at 10 miles untill i find it not so hard as today

09/12/2012 at 17:03

No frost when I woke this morning, so I ran 4.14 miles before breakfast. Rather slow and came back feeling vaguely unwell; probably the effect of no breakfast.  Feeling fine since.

09/12/2012 at 18:49

Red, thanks for the tip regarding the SD Marathon. I used to do a lot of runs on the Downs, when I lived in Waterlooville. I ran the 6 miles to Queen Elizabeth Country Park on narrow, winding roads, ran up and down the hills, and then the 6 miles back. It was all uphill running to the Downs, and downhill coming back. I have only done one race there, and that was the Butser Hill Challenge, way back in 1999. It is still held every year, and is approximately 5 miles. I ran it in 41.42. Apart from a short run on the level at the start, the remainder was all up and down hills. The route was familiar to me as I had trained on the hills. Also, having driven to the start, I didn't have the 6 miles road uphills in my legs so was in good form for the race.

10/12/2012 at 09:55

Well done on various long runs, people.

sarnie, it makes sense to stick with 10 for a while, and get accustomed.

We had our village Christmas Fun day on Saturday - seemed quieter than previous years, but still pleasant.

TE, it seems you know what you might be letting yourself in for! I did the Meon Valley Plod a few years back, as part of marathon preparation. It followed the wettest weather they had had during the years it's been going, so very tough with deep mud across the fields, and numbing floods in the lanes! It includes the climb up Butser Hill, and the drink station at the top offered hot coffee, with the option of a dash of brandy in it, which I have to say I accepted. The 20ish miles took me longer than the marathon later in the year!

Just 7 miles for me yesterday, which felt quite hard going, but it was lovely to be out.

10/12/2012 at 11:02

Well done to the racers at the weekend. Had a busy weekend but got out Sunday am in the pouring rain and strong wind blowing into my face all the way our for 7 miles before I turned and ran back another 7 managed to keep going, though wanted to stop all the time, think the glass of red wine, which is rather a rarity for me on Friday night was in my legs. Anyway managed 14 miles in 1.58 which was too quick really, but hey done, so happy. Having a rest day today as the legs a touch sore.
Happy new week all and keep running.

10/12/2012 at 17:58

Ran 4.5 road miles this afternoon on an uninteresting route. Splits were:
9;58 warming up and steep uphill
9:39 steep uphill
9:37 steep uphil
9:40 steep uphill
.5m 45 secs steep downhill.
I'm being economical with the truth. It's actually what it felt like.

Toying with the idea of running all the Kent Grand Prix races next year except the marathon.. That's one per month over 10 months in a season-long competition. Doesn't include an M70 age group though.

Edited: 10/12/2012 at 17:59
10/12/2012 at 18:08

That definitely sounds like, dare I say it? Training, JJ! Got your mojo back eh?

9 more non-run days for me.......

10/12/2012 at 20:11

JJ, that Kent Grand Prix sounds a good competition to do that gets you racing for most of the year. Even without the marathon, there is still a 20 miler in there.

Mcs, hate those runs where you have to talk yourself out of stopping all through it. I can manage it during hard bits in the middle or the bit at the end but not all through the run.

Found another santa sprint next sunday to do with the grandson. The last one was 1 k and this one will be 2 k which is a long way for a 4 year old. Be interesting to see if he can do it.

Thinking of trying a cross country in January. The last one I did was in school  45 years ago in the old white pumps. I am wondering whether I can get away without spikes as it may be the only one I do or, if not, how cheap I can get them.

10/12/2012 at 20:18

Check the course route before you buy spikes. Most courses have stretches where spikes don't work. Try "knobblies" - shoes with short rubber studs or you get away with trail shoes.

10/12/2012 at 20:20

Diana,I remember the report about that race and the atrocious conditions. I had thought about entering it, and as it turned out, am glad I didn't. I can't remember the year, but it must have been at least 6 years ago?

Mark, an excellent time, especially in those adverse conditions!

JJ, definitely smacks of structured training.

BIW 9 days and counting until "lift off!"

Bright and sunny this morning but a very cold wind. I ran a very easy pace 5.25 miles in the forest.

10/12/2012 at 20:57

Evening all,

No running day for me but I did manage to be a lady wot lunches in Tunbridge Wells and fitted in some Christmas shopping.  Back to the intervals tomorrow.

JJ, which 20 miler does it include?  I didn't know there was one in Kent.  Why isn't there an M70 age group?  That's just wrong.

IW, omg it's getting exciting now 

TE, I expect you'll shoot up those hills anyway so I shan't worry about you!

10/12/2012 at 21:13

Folkestone 20. Running it once killed my FLM performance because I hadn't recovered properly.
Kent has never had an M70 age group in its races, including the championship at each distance. I've been campaigning for one, and an M65 group ever since I stopped being a competitive M60.

10/12/2012 at 21:24

Thanks JJ. I will see what I can find out about the course and also the different type of shoes which I could maybe use again.

10/12/2012 at 21:31

JJ - you mean there's nothing above an M60?

It certainly sounds as though you're back into running with a bang! Did you achieve the weight you were hoping to achieve (and will you maintain it over Christmas?)

Redhead - Tunbridge Wells sounds like a good place for a Lady wot Lunches.

Derek -Mind you and grandson don't trip each other up again.

Been swimming today.

10/12/2012 at 21:41

Derek, I ran a cross country race last Sunday, as you will see in one of my earlier posts. We were forewarned that spikes were unsuitable, and I ran it in trail shoes. It was entirely off road, so I'm not sure what the criteria was for not wearing spikes. The race was mainly through ankle deep mud, so whether the Organisers thought the mud was too deep, even for long spikes, I don't know. Road trainers certainly wouldn't have been suitable.

On the 17th February is the Portsmouth Coastal Half Marathon. On the same day are the Bramley 10 and 20 milers, which are in the Hampshire Road Running League. My club will be entering runners for both Bramley races, and I am tempted by the 20 miler, a distance I have never raced before. On the other hand, I am very tempted by the Coastal Half, which isn't in the HRRL. Decisions, decisions

10/12/2012 at 22:04

Q1 All folks over 60 are lumped into the same age group.

Q2  No and no.

11/12/2012 at 00:14

Thanks Columba, if there is not too many there and the course is safe, I might try running without holding his hand this time (or just get knee protectors like skate boarders use)

Terence,I am not familiar with trail shoes at all. Is there a lot of difference in grip with the trail shoes compared to ordinary shoes. They have not published the course yet just the park it is in, If they do I will probably walk round it before and see what is in store.

11/12/2012 at 10:52

Morning all,

Glorious sunny and frosty day here.  Tempo run for me at lunchtime 

Derek, I've never tried spikes but I always use my trail shoes for running off-road as they have a much better grip than road shoes.  With my road shoes I have hardly any grip off-road whereas my trail shoes have nice wide lugs on them which are easy to clean afterwards.  The only time they aren't very effective is on the loose flinty sections of the South Downs but other than that they are great.

JJ, keep on campaigning!  It's ludicrous that there isn't an over 65 category and there definitely should be a masters category for the over 70s 'cos you guys inspire slow ploddy peeps like me 

11/12/2012 at 11:05

Derek, there is certainly more grip in trail shoes. There are various treads, however; my Salomons Speed Cross 2 having longish triangular rubber lugs, and my current pair, Salomon Pro Plus 5 having shorter triangular rubber lugs. All models of trail shoes will have treads designed to grip. When I was a regular cross country racer, I always wore spikes, although sometimes there were problems when part of the course went over tarmac. I didn't know about the existence of trail shoes in those days. I don't think I have explained this very well, but I hope it helps.

JJ, I can understand that it is difficult for you to maintain your competitive edge, when there is no age category above 60-70. It is bad enough for me as an under 70, and a year closer to that now.

11/12/2012 at 11:24

I came to work in my Inov8s today as I can run off road, cross country, fields and mud most of the way so great for off road but not too comfy for running on the tarmac......if the ground is really hard as it is today I quite like using my road running shoes even on off road bits......depends on the ground and the weather I guess. 
Think there are catagories in fell running for the older runners.........could be wrong.

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