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30/12/2012 at 09:31

Morning all,

Just back from a very windy 10 miler on my hilliest route.  Huffed and puffed a bit on the steep bits but recovered quickly so not bothered by it.  Need caffeine now 

(((Matsmum))), you've earned those hugs.  A lot of people start running for similar reasons and I identified with you when you mentioned "sheer obstinacy" getting you round!  Sounds as if you've got a good running base already and with pilates thrown in too that will really help your fitness, especially the core work.  Oh and  with 22 for Christmas I think you earned that break and you'll soon get back into training again.  Just one thing to mention, in case it isn't included in your schedule, it's good idea to factor in a half marathon or 2 just to see how you're progressing.

JJ, thanks.  Can't decide about TWells this time s I always put on such a poor performance there.

TE, sounds as if the rest did you good!

30/12/2012 at 09:50

Red, I don't know how you manage to set off for your long runs so early in the morning. Do you skip breakfast? The rest certainly did me good, as I hadn't felt so light on my feet for ages.

It's very bright and sunny here in the forest, and I will be setting off soon for my run, but think I will avoid the forest. I haven't any club mates to run with this morning, so don't want t risk another fall, which would "finish me off!"

I forgot to mention earlier that on Boxing Day, we watched a 5k road race through the centre of Aylesbury and the old market square. It is still cobbled, so would have been very slippery if icy. If I had known it was on, I would have entered, as I lived in Aylesbury for many years.

30/12/2012 at 14:33

Hi there.

Got myself out this morning and really enjoyed myself. The training schedule said 50 min run with 5 min walk each end. I did 4.43 miles for the run - what is that, 11.5 speed? It felt good anyway. The wind was behind me on the outward bit but I really had to battle against it on the way back. I live in the country in East Anglia where it is very flat (don't ask me about hill reps then!!) and the wind whips across the fields.

JJ - I will train 3 times a week. I am still working, and have a vast family, so that is all I can really manage. Also given my advanced age I probably need more recovery time!  The training schedule does include fartlek and stuff.

Red - half marathon races tend to be quite a distance from where I live but I will investigate.

TE - about putting on weight over Christmas....I put only a pound which really surprised me. I am 5ft3" and weigh 8st so carrying extra weight is not my problem. But having short little legs is! They do twice as many revolutions  as other peoples!

Visited youngest son and girlfriend after run . Nice to see them so happy.

30/12/2012 at 14:52

TE, yep, I always have my brekkie afterwards as I hate running on a full tummy.  My pre-marathon fuelling is always a shake such as SlimFast with the exception of pre-London where I traditionally have a chocolate croissant and strong coffee at a little cafe in Blackheath village.  The only reason that it is different is that in order to get to the start in time we have to get there really early and so I've got plenty of time to digest it.

30/12/2012 at 15:52

Matsmum, well done getting out running and enjoying it! Running should be enjoyable, and if I didn't enjoy it, I wouldn't still be running. I have been running for about 35 years now, and still get the same pleasure from it as when I first started.

Red, I can't run or race on an empty stomach. I need some food inside me to give enough energy to keep me going. I have recently read a book about Charlie Spedding entitled "From Last to First," and he only had a slice of toast and a small glass of water before his marathons. That was in the days before sports drinks and gels etc.

The rain hasn't reached here yet, and I ran an easy pace 8 miles on road this morning. Those 5 days non running certainly seem to have been beneficial, as I was cruising at sub 9.30 pace, with an average of 9.25. A few weeks ago, I would be working hard to achieve that.

30/12/2012 at 16:19

Hello and welcome, Matsmum. You won't be getting any advice from me on running a marathon, 'cos I've never run one. Have run two half-marathons, and at the end of each I wondered how on earth people can go on and do the same amount again.

That's very very sad about your son. We see our children arrive; we don't expect to see them leave ahead of us. You say you have a large family, - how many sons and daughters have you?

As far as posh daughters and untidy sons are concerned, I think the inclinations of the husband / wife (if any) have also to be considered. I think my elder daughter takes after me in being not particularly tidy, and it is her husband who ensures that the house is looking spick-and-span.  

I came home from London with a niggly sore throat. It can't seem to decide whether it's going to turn into something or not. I went for a short run yesterday and really didn't feel good, so today prescribed for myself an afternoon on the settee with a large glass of wine.  

Me, I can't do more than a short run if starting before breakfast. However, a banana will keep me going for an hour or so.

30/12/2012 at 17:05

Hello Columba, and thank you for your welcome.

Actually I have finished each half wondering how on earth people manage to do the same again as well. That doesn't bode too well for me, does it!

I have 3 daughters and 3 sons. They all live very close so I see them all the time, well apart from Matthew ofcourse, who is in my heart, not my vision. And 10 grandchildren, aged from 2 to 17. I have a large and very shabby home which we all love. How about you?

About eating before a run - I have a banana, and then take dried fruit with me. And when I plan to be out for ages I take marzipan because I can't stand those gel things. Instead of water I take skimmed milk which somebody told me was better for hydration. At my time of life I take all the advice I can!

Hope you feel better soon. Take it easy - there are some quite nasty bugs doing the rounds at the moment.


Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
30/12/2012 at 20:04

Welcome Matsmum! I am a "forcibly retired" marathoner, been running more than 50 years and have finished 45 marathons, but had to have a hip replacement in June. Hence my name - the new joint is titanium. My surgeon says I can't do more than a half-marathon now, so I'll have to stick to shorter races from now on - I have to say, I hate 10km with a passion, it's my least favourite distance.

Sunday swim this morning with John - did 1600m to his 2000m, but I did get in the water a good few minutes before him!

Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
30/12/2012 at 20:06

I shall run tomorrow and of course on NY Day!


30/12/2012 at 21:09

Bionic Ironwolf, you are my hero!  I feel such a wimp, but I keep telling myself that the journey of a thousand miles (or in this case 26.2) begins with but a single step.

30/12/2012 at 22:09

I didn't start running until I was 55 and that was 17 years ago but I did other sporting things all my life. I ran my marathon PB of 3:53 at age 65 so there's hope for you yet!
I am  about to start a bit of a comeback after nearly a year of not running very much

If you run any race distance flat out you couldn't do an immediate repeat performance so don't look on a marathon as 2 x 13.1 miles. It's 1 x 26.2 miles and you pace it accordingly.
If you are training 3 days a week don't worry about recovery. Go for quality training and you can do a perfectly respectable marathon run. My preference for a weekly  training schedule would be:-
One run of 6 miles starting nice and steadily and getting slightly faster each mile.
One run of 1 mile warm up then 4 miles slightly slower than 10k pace. One mile warm down.
One long run each week building up to around 13 - 15 miles but including 2 x 18 milers. The first 18 miler should be 7 weeks before the marathon and the second one should be 3 weeks before the marathon.

Choose moderately hilly routes or bits of off road  if you can. You will build added leg strength.

We can provide you with tons of advice on here and if you want to run any questions by me via email I don't mind.

31/12/2012 at 09:15

It's a horrible dark, wet windy morning, the type that makes you feel you would rather stay indoors than go out for a run. Will set off later, after a visit to the shops. Most will be closed tomorrow.

31/12/2012 at 10:01

My sore throat has resolved itself into a cold, and as the weather here is as described by TE I shall be staying in (apart from necessary trip to shops).

Matsmum - no wonder you're so busy! - I have 5; boy, girl, boy, boy, girl. And one grandchild, aged 15 months, via the elder girl. All but the youngest live in London (the youngest is in Bristol) so I go there several times a year.

31/12/2012 at 12:36

Afternoon all,

Vile day here too!

I'm taking a break from tradition and not running on the last day of one year and the first of the next so today is a rest day.  Tomorrow will be a tempo run and the start of my full-on training for 2013.  Bring it on! 

Columba, oh dear.  Take good care of yourself please.

31/12/2012 at 14:55

Columba, hope your cold soon clears up.

Red, good luck with all your races and running 7 days a week in 2013.

Ran 4 miles fartlek this morning. I saw 4 other runners, which was very unusual, especially in this vile weather.

A very happy and prosperous New Year to you all.

31/12/2012 at 19:40

Best wishes to everyone for a problem-free 2013. Have a great time this evening if you're celebrating and sleep well if you're not.


31/12/2012 at 20:17

Brilliant start to the day -  2 mile walk along the beach to see the colony of seals that have taken up residence in the bay. They breed at this time of year and the cubs are so cute. Then all the family round for a curry party .They are not staying to see the new year in though- and I won't be staying up either!

JJ - thank you for the advice and I will definitely take it up. I will do the first 6 miles tomorrow.

Happy New Year everyone. I hope that 2013 brings you all you could wish for.

Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
31/12/2012 at 20:20

We went as usual to the NYE run, John ran the 10km with Nemo, as both Charly and I can't do that yet we did the 5km Nordic Walking, I honestly thought it would take us about an hour but was astounded to finish in 41 minutes for 3rd place lady! Anyway, sitting here at the mo with a glass of wine (not my first of the night I have to admit),we plan to stay in with the dogs until midnight because we don't know yet how Charly will react to all the firework noise. He didn't turn a hair at the start gun today so maybe will be ok. Nemo doesn't have a problem with noise, he goes out on the balcony and watches the fireworks! We will go out up the road to our friends after the fireworks end.

Happy New year to everyone and may your sporting wishes all come true. Redhead, I wish you a "guten Rutsch ins NeuJahr".


31/12/2012 at 20:26

Rain stopped mid-afternoon and as my cold seems to be no more than a sniffle I put in a final 2 miles for 2012.  I shan't be staying up late.

Matsmum - how lovely, to have a colony of seals within walking distance! 

BIW - Nordic Walking, that's a brilliant idea as i suppose it puts less of a strain on all the joints involved in walking and running. Had you done it before?

A Happy New Year to you all.

Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
31/12/2012 at 20:36

Yes Columba, I've been doing it all during my recovery time until I was allowed to start running again on 20 December.

Happy New Year!

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