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18/02/2013 at 15:45

Terence I'd say it depends when the marathon is. I train for a marathon for about 4 months but keep up my base mileage all year with a 18-20 mile long run ever 4-6 weeks. Then it comes as less of a shock. If your planned race is less that 4 months you need to keep on with the marathon plan. If it's more than that you can concentrate on other distances, with speed work etc. And with an occasional long run to keep your hand in.

18/02/2013 at 16:20

TE, well you know my answer to that - marathons!  Having said that, I reckon you could smash some of your pbs on the way to the SDM as that's many months away yet.  Are you looking for a marathon pb too?  (sorry, I can't remember what yours is).  I don't think many people would consider the SDM to be a marathon to enter for a pb, but then you are super-speedy.........

18/02/2013 at 17:31

TE, Well done!  I sent positive vibes to you at 10.35, thinking you were probably just under way!

OO50,Fantastic effort - Buttermere is supposed to be harder than a marathon, so you should find London a breeze. I am so happy you are going to be there. I am 65 and this is my first marathon.  Friends on this forum are talking me through it. Red is running it too. Just ask her what she is going to be doing while she runs !!   I am not in the least competitive except with myself. I have always kept fit but mostly through dance. I think the fastest I have run was when I was 14 and the Cuban missile crisis was under way. It was when the Cold War came closest to turning into nuclear conflict. My parents were at work and every day I used to try to run home within 4 minutes which was the warning you got, so that I could be at home with my dog when we were blown to smithereens!  ( Does anybody else remember MAD - the term for mutual assured destruction? )  I started properly running after Good Friday 2009 when my 24 year old son died in a car accident. And now I want to run marathons.  I am determined VLM will be the first of many.

JJ,  how old is your granddaughter? My lot are ages 17, 16, 14, 13, 11, 8, 7, 7, 5, 2, and 2.  I have founded a dynasty.

Little K is representing the Eastern Region in Derbyshire in March. She is going by coach and staying in a hotel over night. She thinks she's died and gone to heaven!

18/02/2013 at 17:36

BI - I forgot to say that my husband has bought us some walking poles to do some Nordic Walking. We looked up how to do it on you tube and then had a go on the mountain road.  I am sorry to say that we were absolutely helpless with laughter and didn't achieve any kind of workout.  But heyho, tomorrow is another day. We will get the proper ones when we go home. Can you recommend a make please?

18/02/2013 at 18:10

Matmum that is sad indeed- so sorry for your loss. I know when I returned to marathon running in 2007 I motivated myself by saying he performance was dedicated to my dad, who died young at 44, same age as me when I ran that race.   

On the other hand I was going to suggest you dance your way round the marathon course- now that would be first!

Rest today, my legs are shot to pieces.

18/02/2013 at 19:08

Thanks 00 55, Red and Matsmum. The South Downs Marathon is in June, and the Portsmouth Coastal Marathon on 22nd December. I know December is a very long way off, but it is nearly full already, and I need to make my mind up quite quickly.

My marathon pb is 3hrs 12, which was the New Forest Marathon, set way back in 1993, when I was 47. There is no question of me getting even remotely near to that time, and I was thinking 5 hours would be more realistic for the SDM.

I certainly intend keeping up the quality work with the club, so will enter the shorter races whether I decide to enter the marathons or not. I'm not feeling too bad after yesterday, just an ache in the quads if I sit down for too long. I walked for about a mile this morning, which helped to ease the stiffness in my legs.

Matsmum, very sorry to hear of the loss of your son. I wish you luck in your first marathon, and hope it is the first of many.

18/02/2013 at 20:33

'lo all
A bit over 3 miles off road this morning with the doodle. Had several rest breaks waiting for her to catch up. She was in one of her "I'm in no hurry" moods.

Run the marathons but use shorter distance races as speed training. They will also help you get race fit. I have done most of my PBs en route to marathons.

The latest grandaughter is 4 months. We have 2 other grandaughters aged 9 and 7 and a grandson of 4.

I joined you in the garden for most of the day. Unfortunately it was mine .
If I was meant to swim I'd have webbed feet.

18/02/2013 at 21:26

Thanks JJ and everyone else for your comments and advice. You have more or less confirmed that what I had wanted to do was not crazy. I will, therefore, enter both marathons, and still race the shorter distances that I had planned.

JJ, good to hear that you have done an off road run today. I hope that you will continue running, even if not racing.

19/02/2013 at 08:09

Morning all,

Oh my but I'm a redheaded whirlwind this morning!  I had so much to do first thing that after being up for 3 hours this is the first chance I've had for a coffee break before heading off to a lay champions meeting with DeNDRoN (I do wish they'd change their name 'cos every time I type it I think of trees!!!).  My intervals will be done this afternoon and I'm hoping to sneak in a bit of gardening too 

JJ, glad to hear you dragged yourself for an off-road plod.  I think you should get yourself 10k fit and drag me to a 10k pb later in the year   I consider this year to be my sensible year, ahem, with only 2 marathons early in the year and then my streak, so I reckon I could be up for a crack at my 54:12 at Brighton in November (yes, I know I hate the overcrowding, tacky medal and the fact that it almost always rains!).

Terry, we just confirmed what you wanted to do all along.  You'll shine in all your races 

Matsmum, LOL at your walking poles.  I bought some for my hubby several years ago and he decided to test them by walking across our land.  As he strode across the horses field, Esther galloped towards him and reared up then nearly kicked him which really scared him.  We suspect she may have had a bad experience with a man and a stick in the past as she is a rescue horse.  I don't think he's used them since.

00, dancing around VLM has been done before.  You'd be amazed at the things people get up to!

Right must dash.  Have a lovely day everyone 

19/02/2013 at 09:41

Red, you're quite right, I just wanted reassurance. Your mention of DeNDRon reminded my of the song De Do Run Run De Do Run Run, which I think was by the Ronnettes?  I can remember several amazing runners in the London Marathon. There was one who played a clarinet, a wine waiter who carried a wine glass and bottle on a tray, a juggler and many others. There was also the amazing Red, who knitted the worlds longest scarf. I'm sure you'll crack your PB for the 10k this year. A mixture of long runs, speed work, hill reps, tempo and recovery runs will bring success.

The results of my race our now out and I was 7th in the 65-70 category and 694 out of 780. Helen was 695 with the same gun time as me, but she was a second ahead on chip time. There were also 70-75 results, but prize wise, there was only one for first over 60, nothing for the older categories.

19/02/2013 at 09:54

Having had two rest days in succession, I shall be out with the running club this evening. I usually swim on a Monday, but having discovered that there are swimming lessons available in a neighbouring town on a Thursday, I am switching to them. I need someone to teach me how to swim front crawl.

Matsmum, you must have started young with your dynasty. My five children are all in their 30s and 20s, but I have only one grandchild as yet, age 16 months.

I have wondered about walking poles. I suspect I would need instruction. After reading about Matsmum's experience, and Redhead's hubby's, I'm sure of it!

19/02/2013 at 12:48

Columba, my wife uses Nordic walking poles after joining a free course run by SUSTRANS (sustainable transport). I have joined her a couple of times and I struggle to keep up, there's a real knack to it but I really enjoyed it- definately worth looking into.

Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
19/02/2013 at 14:30

I didn't find it too hard to learn but then I've been x-country skiing for years and the movements are approx the same.

Matsmum - sorry, can't help you there, I got mine from Aldi!

Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
19/02/2013 at 14:32

It's bliddy well snowing again! Just got a message that dog training's off this evening. Oh how I wish we had an indoor hall as well as our field. S'pose I'll go swimming instead.

19/02/2013 at 21:43

Another 3 mile shamble today. Just ticking over.
Don't see any need for walking poles but I would like a pogo stick. I think it's called attention seeking?

I expect to get back to racing at some stage.

If I'm fit towards the end of the year I will happily run Brighton with you. If you don't like Brighton I'm sure we can find another quick course. You should train for sub-50 so that even if you miss it by 2 mins you still get your PB by a mile.


19/02/2013 at 23:30

5* 1km for me this evening. I'd have preferred a gentle recovery jog but my daughter wanted to go to the running club. Felt OK once I loosened up but shamble mode here too. Nice to have my daughter (15) showing an interest in running.

Edited: 19/02/2013 at 23:31
Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
20/02/2013 at 05:52

A pogo stick, JJ? I broke my nose falling off one of those when I was 11 years old!

20/02/2013 at 09:15

Morning all,

Dreary and dank here.  10 miles done @ marathon pace earlier;  I'm loving these lighter mornings 

Oh I loved my pogo stick.  Great fun!

00, excellent that your daughter wants to run.  It's good to see youngsters getting involved as we're always hearing about them not getting any exercise.

JJ, sub 50 is scary but I'd like to have a go.  I'll get the marathons out of the way and then concentrate more on that.

Edited: 20/02/2013 at 09:23
20/02/2013 at 09:59

Red, well done on your 10 miler so early in the morning. Has the SDM always been held on a Saturday? I'm sure I've asked this question before, but is it advisable to wear trail shoes?

A good club session last night. We did a pyramid session comprising 1,2,3,3,2,1 round a 300 metre circular route. Legs were ok after the pre session drills, and I ran the last 3 efforts quicker that the first 3. I'm just going for a short easy run this morning, as we're doing a 10 miler tomorrow at the club. Only 3 weeks now to the Salisbury 10 mile race, and I'm hoping to race it hard.

20/02/2013 at 10:19

'OO' - interesting that your wife did a course in walking pole use with Sustrans - I'm a long-term member of Sustrans (despite having given up cycling), but have never noticed any walking pole courses being publicised. Must look into it.

BIW - your mention of X-country skiing reminded me that Eldest Son did some of that earlier this year, and has never told me how it went. Must ask him.

Red - I think JJ likes suggesting scary things.

4.6 miles with the running club last night, around town, up and down hills. One of the men who usually runs with the group was instead taking his daughter running, - we kept co-inciding at convenient gathering-points. In my case, it was my children who started me running rather than the other way round.

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