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19/03/2013 at 20:52

JJ - I got 67% in a 10k about 3 years ago. Another race in which I was the last finisher.

Running club tonight. Except that when I opened the door, it was to find a blizzard in progress! - It must have only just started, because when I went to get changed there was nothing precipitating. It was very wet snow; hopefully it will have disappeared tomorrow and I can go for a non-club run.

19/03/2013 at 21:40

Hello Tony. I'm running VLM too and gett rather nervous 5 weeks out. I think it's my 7th or 8th VLM and 15th marathon.

Heard of the sad death of a friend at the running club tonight. Committed suicide at the w/end following a family split and job troubles. Very sad for the 3 kids he leaves behind.  


20/03/2013 at 09:25

00 50, Sad news about your running friend, he must have been very desperate to leave behind 3 children.

An excellent session with the club last night. We did 4 x 1 mile hilly circuits, with 90 sec jog recoveries between circuits.  Our total mileage was 8.76. Off for an easy pace recovery run later. 

20/03/2013 at 09:44

Morning all,

Tinker says thank you for your good wishes and he's feeling much brighter this morning.  It turns out he has developed an infection of the urinary tract, poor love, but the medication I gave him yesterday has started to work almost immediately.  He's such a brave little fellow.

Columba, he's 17 and has always taken some very challenging health set-backs in his stride.

00 that is so sad.  He must have been desperate and feeling completely isolated.

TE, another good session.

Right, yesterday turned into a very satisfactory tempo run of 5 miles.  Today will be 8 miles @ marathon pace with a brief stop at the vets to collect some more medicine for Tinker.  It isn't raining at the moment but I bet it does when I go out!

20/03/2013 at 12:04

Hurrah for Tinker, brave little cat.

Had minor surgery this morning on my right hand so no swimming until the stitches come out in 8 - 10 days. Can still run though and ride my bike,but I'll cycle indoors only, on the roller, even I am not silly enough to go out on the road!

Poor children, left without their Dad, he must have been at the end of his tether to even think of abandoning his family.

Edited: 20/03/2013 at 12:07
20/03/2013 at 15:42

Red, your training is going very well. Have you conquered your breathing problems now?

BIW, hope surgery wasn't painful.

A very easy pace 6 mile run this morning. 

20/03/2013 at 16:23

TE, well done for marshalling. Several of our former Beginners will have been among the slower ladies you encouraged. They struggled through sleet around Lepe, so will have needed your support!

Nice to see you again Tony. Several more of our club members ran the Salisbury 10 too. In fact, two of our men placed first and fourth.

Glad Tinker is feeling better, Red.

OO 50 - tragic news from your club. How very sad that he was unable to turn to someone for support.

I'm still keeping up with my 'run every day in March' challengew, and have clocked up 81 miles so far this month, despite several days a week being quite short distances. Fartlek is on the agenda with the club tonight, so I can take it as I feel.

The sun is actually out, although it's still pretty cold, so I managed a couple of hours at the allotment today.

20/03/2013 at 17:32

'OO' - that is tragic, about your friend. There was a rather similar case here a few weeks ago, - didn't know him very well, but know his mother. He too was living alone, having separated from his wife, who had custody of the children. But he had work, and friends, and was well liked, and no-one seemed to have anticipated this. Apparently his dog had just died; maybe that was the final straw.

BIW, hope you recover quickly from the surgery.

Snow nearly all gone so ran just under 7 miles, including a "pyramid".

20/03/2013 at 17:33

... and best wishes to Tinker, - 17! A good age, even for a cat!

20/03/2013 at 18:56

He's still got some years in him yet, with luck. My female cat died at 20 and a friend's cat was 22!

Moving the computer mouse with my left hand is tricky!

20/03/2013 at 22:01

Evening all,

Tinker says hello to everyone.  He's been eating everything in sight today.  Hoorah!  My 8 miles turned into 9 miles and it didn't rain.  Hoorah again!  The final one goes to the lovely wool shop which will be donating the yarn for me to knit at VLM.  Hoorah!

IW, what have you had done to your hand?  Are you becoming addicted to operations?!   I hope he has got some more years in him - one of our cats lived to 20 as well but I'd love it if he reached 22 or more.

Diana, keep up the good work.

Columba, well done on your pyramid.  I quite like that sort of run.

TE, not sure about the breathing problems being conquered as I'm very wheezy today but I've had a good couple of weeks.  I hope that putting it in writing doesn't jinx me!

21/03/2013 at 09:14

Redhead - it's a condition called snap finger, or in my case thumb. When you bend the affected digit the middle  joint snaps back on its own, rather painfully. It's not something that gets better by itself without surgical intervention, what they do is make a small incision in the palm under the "bad" finger, then cut the "ring band" which is constricting the nerve. 10-min op under local anasthetic, couple of stitches and it's done. Not something I'd choose to happen! Typing only left-handed is a nuisance, and my writing is a nightmare, looks like an insect trail. Still, did one hour on the indoor bike trainer last night.

No addiction to ops - I'm chafing at the bit already with this bandage on my right hand. Not allowed to drive either

21/03/2013 at 09:28

Morning all,

Another dim, miserable morning, with heavy rain forecast later

Diana, thanks, it makes the marshalling so worth while, when we get appreciation from the runners and club reps. The race got a very upbeat write up in the Echo and we hope to put on an equally good show next year.

Columba, good running there, and pyramids are a great way of increasing pace.

Red, hope your good weeks continue.

Only 11 weeks to go now to the SDM, so will bump up my long runs again after Sunday's Eastleigh 10k. Our club has chosen this race to be its Championship Race, and times will be age related. I am, therefore, hoping that my adjusted time will be the fastest. If I achieve my target of 47 minutes, this will equate to 36.01 minutes. Whether this will be fast enough remains to be seen, but I will run my hardest.

21/03/2013 at 09:52

Morning all,

The sun's out, maybe not for long but it lifts the spirits immediately   I've got intervals scheduled for later so hope it lasts.

TE, I bet you'll get 47 mins if the weather is on your side.  Paws crossed for you.

IW, ouch, that sounds horrid.  Hope it heals quickly.

21/03/2013 at 15:45

Red, the forecast for Sunday is very cold, with a 17% chance of rain. I haven't run it before, but it is described as flat and a pb course. Hope your intervals go well.

I ran a very cold and wet 5 miles this morning, which I didn't enjoy at all. The easterly wind was biting and my hands were frozen. I should have worn gloves. Tomorrow and Saturday will be rest days, so that I am rearing to go on Sunday. 

21/03/2013 at 15:49

 Can I ask advice please - as an older runner (53) I started running to lose weight at the start of 2011 after a 12 year break and 3 stone increase in weight - I am currently running about 40-45 miles per week in preperation for a 5 in two weeks time.

My problem is quite simply tired legs - the problem I think I have, is that I am trying to replicate the training I did in my late 20s and 30s when I ran every day sometimes twice - with two speed sessions and fast tempo running - 

Now I am older (I suppose I know the answer really) should I either take at least one rest day a week, or a greatly reduced week training week every 4th week/ or indeed both - Rest, because of my background is an almost alien concept - (my goal is to get as close to 30 minutes for 5 this year as possible.


21/03/2013 at 19:30

Hi Grendel and welcome to the forum. I am not a Coach but have approximately 35 years running experience, so can advise based on my own background. I am 67 years old and started running at age 35. I very seldom ran a full 7 day week, but took Friday as a rest day. In my forties, I had a very similar training to yours in your 20s and 30s, which included track sessions twice a week, a tempo run, lsd run, hill reps, recovery runs etc.

I now run 5 days a week, and have been in the mid 40 miles per week for the last few weeks. I would, therefore, suggest that you have at least one rest day per week, but continue with your 40/45 mpw, and reduce the mileage every 4th week. There is no need to reduce the speed work, as speed is lost more quickly as we age, but our endurance is longer lasting. You will certainly need to work hard at the speed work, if you want to run 5 miles close to 30 minutes. If you are not intending to race longer distances than 5 miles, then you could consider reducing the weekly mileage.

Hope this is helpful and I'm sure you will get more advice from the knowledgeable regulars on this thread.

21/03/2013 at 20:25

Hello and welcome, Grendel. I'm not one of the more knowledgeable regulars. I run 3 times a week, and never 2 days in succession, - but I am considerably older than you, and only started running in mu late 50s. 

BIW - I suppose if you can't drive and can type only very slowly, you're taking time off work? - How frustrating, to have the time but not be able to do any of the things with it you'd like to!

Swimming today. That's the last lesson until mid-April. I'll still swim, but may not be able to practice Legs and Breathing if everyone else in the pool is busy going up and down lanes. 

21/03/2013 at 20:57

OO 50
If only your friend had felt able to talk to someone. So sad.

You have what I assume is finger trouble? I assume you are keying with one hand and one foot?

Good news about the mogs. Hope he's not used his 9th life.

As you get older you have to train smarter. Two main things happen. You lose speed not stamina and recovery takes longer. Running 7 days a week is neither necessary nor helpful. Back off to 5 runs a week and make sure two of them are speed sessions. One long slow run(LSR) each week of maybe 10 miles is the only real endurance work you need.
An average week would look something like:

2 x 6 miles steady
1 x 400m reps very fast and each at the same pace. 8 - 10 reps. One minute jog recoveries. Warm up and warm down.
1 x tempo run. One mile warm up, 4 miles at round about 10k pace, one mile cooling down.

22/03/2013 at 09:31

Morning all,

We seem to have avoided the dreadful snow and heavy rain so far in my part of Hampshire, but many roads remain flooded from over night rain in some areas. Ryde Promenade on the IoW has been flooded, and this is the first time that I can remember that the sea has come over the walls to such an extent. It must have been a combination of a very high tide and heavy rain. The fire brigade are pumping out the water.

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