Older runners meet here.
00 50, I can't remember how old you said you were, but 40 minutes is a good time for a 10k at any age. I last went under 40 minutes when I ran 39.13 at the age of 49.
Ran a very enjoyable 7.25 miles in The New Forest this morning, despite the bitterly cold easterly wind and light snow. It was my first run back in the forest for several weeks, due to the waterlogged conditions and the fact that I had been training for road races. I have no races planned for April, so will concentrate on speed/hill work and increasing my mileage again, in preparation for the SDM in June. I have the Alton 10 mile and Netley 10k in May, which are both Hampshire Road Race League (HRRL) races, and will act as sharpeners.
BIW, at the rate you are progressing, you will soon be super fit!
One of our Coaches, who has been unable to run for many months due to a skiing accident, has now started running again, and I don't think it will be very long before "she is up to speed" again.
No running today. Been to darkest Essex to play with grandaughter all day. Stuck in M25 jam for an hour on the way back.OO 50I agree with other comments on here that your daughter could be confusing "out of breath" with breathing problems. Normal training runs should be at conversation pace so maybe slow her down a bit. It's only speed training that should result in major breath shortage.GrendelHope all 20 reps are at the same pace. If you do the early ones too quickly you slow down too much towards the end and lose the speed element. I guess you could be OK because the recoveries are quite long.TEGive your coach some coaching and get her to build up slowly. JJ
Aren't there wild horses in the New Forest TE? I ran there once when my daughter was at guide camp very distinctive place to run, different to any forest in the North anyway. Would have loved more time to explore. Indeed sub 40 is a very good time at any age.
My daughter is 15 JJ and new to running. She keeps getting faster and then surprises herself how hard it feels to run fast. She is down to c24 mins. for the pakrun (5k) and I supect before long I'll be looking over my shoulder.
00 50. there are indeed wild horses in the New Forest. There are also cows, deer and even pigs which are set loose to eat the acorns. If the ponies eat them, they can explode! We have the only poisonous snakes in the UK which are the Adders. I have only ever seen two in all the 30 odd years I have been running there. The New Forest is a wonderland to me and I try to run there as often as possible. Once the clocks go forward our club nights will either be in the forest, or on the grass track in the nearby Leisure Centre. Off road running is so much better for the joints and improves stability, stamina and endurance. I feel very privileged to live within a mile of the forest.
JJ, yes I will. She was attempting some of the hill reps on Tuesday, but was sensible to stop.
Tomorrow evening, our club are having two separate sessions, a choice of 5 miles tempo, or 10 miles steady. I will opt for the 10 miles.
Got my hair cut, and then caught the train to Shrewsbury where there is a specialist running shop (my nearest) and bought some new Saucony Phoenix which will replace my current pair when they eventually wear out, - but they are wearing quite well at the moment.
At the haridresser's I was delighted to find that the particularly good hairdresser, who I thought had left, was back in place. He left as a man, and has come back as a woman; I had been told that he wanted to make a fresh start in a town where he wasn't known as a bloke. He - or should I now say she - was quite open about it all, and said she'd decided to try it out in order to see if people were "freaked out", and if they were, she would indeed leave. She was wearing a mini-skirt, black leggings and high boots.
Last night I was out with the running club, 6.3 miles in very cold conditions, a run which took us up onto high, exposed ground where there was snow still lying thick and unthawed.
Red - I believe there's a soya-based "cheese"; but I don't think it's much like the real thing. If you don't eat much cheese anyway, maybe simpler just to do without.
JJ - does playing with your grand-daughter count as cross-training?
TE - the New Forest isn't the only place in the UK with adders, - there are some in Wales too. I haven't seen them, but have seen signs warning against them.
OO 50Hope she learns that it's OK to run for enjoyment as well. Clearly she has some potential.TEMy club is based on the Harrier tradition so off road running is de rigeur as soon as light permits and there are two off road runs every Sunday throughout the year. JJ
One of my brother's Border collies was bitten on the leg by an adder last year, in Tilgate Forest near Crawley, Sussex. Was quite nasty for a couple of weeks, they nearly lost her but with rapid and professional help from a specialist vet, she pulled through without any residual problems.
Yes that run in the New Forest made a big impression on me- I was a bit shocked to see those wild horses and the colour of the soil and rock was quite distinctive.
Funeral today of a running friend who took his own life. Not looking forward to that...
Columba, I didn't mean that the NF was the only place having Adders, I meant that Adders were the only poisonous snake in the UK. I remember when I was a youngster, and walking through Core Abbey Grounds on the Isle of Wight with my Aunty and her Alsatian, the dog was bitten by an Adder. She took him to the Vet's and he survived ok.
00 50, there are quite a lot of steep hills in the NF which probably surprises many visitors, as they tend to think it would be flat. A lot of the hills are a mixture of white clay, black mud, grass, gravel etc. Quite testing and excellent for hill reps. Our club does seem to specialise in hill work, and we do have some ultra runners. I hope that your friend's funeral isn't too sad an affair, and that the Service will feature some of his favourite songs.
The sun is shining this morning, and the temperature is forecast to rise to 6 degrees, but still with the biting easterly wind.
A difficult day for you 'OO'50 - not an easy thing to have to deal with given the tragic circumstances.
JJ the 20 times a minute are usually around 6 minute miles - quite challenging (for me anyway) but if I am ever to get back to around 30 minutes for 5 then that is the pace I have to be running at or faster - some way to go it has to be said. Not expecting anything like that at Braintree but 2 years back from 12 years out - am hoping to get down to around 37 minutes. It will help if there are some of my old contemparies there - Last time I did Braintree there was a guy there who I had known for years and he ran 38 minutes (I did 51!!) so am hoping that he or someone else I know from the old days are there to latch on to - nothing like old rivalries to focus the mind!!!!.
I have never run in the New Forest but been there a few times over the years, a beautiful part of the world. We don't have any trails where we live but can run on the beach - although part of the sea wall from Seawick to Point Clear on the Essex coast is grass - haven't run that bit yet as needed to get fitter - now I am back up to being able to run 8-10 and the mornings are lighter I will investigate it when the wind drops. There are Adders along that stretch of the coast too (and according to a couple from the midlands last Summer a lion was seen!!! major news story at the time).
No running today as I've swapped it for tomorrow as I had to go out. I shall be ale to run whilst my hot cross buns are rising (JJ, behave!).
At last, I've finally let the horses into part of the orchard as the ground has firmed up a bit. They were so excited that they galloped in circles for a while before they settled down.
00, sorry to miss you beforehand but I hope all went as well as possible at the funeral. Good luck with your 10k - I hope the weather is kind to you.
Grendel, OK, you are officially scary with your 20 x eyeballs out jobbies!
Columba, he/she is very brave. As for a cheese substitute - bleurgh!!!!!!
IW, how is your brother's health now?
I love running off-road but it's been impossible this winter as a lot of the footpaths have been underwater or deep mud. It's the first year I've done all my marathon training on the lanes.
2 weeks until Brighton. Taper, taper, taper! Soon it's the start of an exciting time for me - Brighton marathon (please let me get my elusive pb this time!!!!), the Alzheimer's Show (where I'm speaking), VLM (will I beat my Guinness World Record again?) then my streak starts and in the middle of that there's Badminton Horse Trials where ARUK is their charity of the year so I'm going along to help for 2 days and will be meeting Richard Meade who was my pin-up when I was a horse-mad teenager. I am getting over-excited already
Have a lovely Easter everyone.
Red, good luck with The Brighton! I feel sure you will get that elusive pb this time, as your training has been consistent, except for those times when your breathing problems interrupted it. Helen, who I ran the Bramley 20 mile with, is doing her final long run on Saturday of 18 miles, before the VLM and I will run it with her.
Red - sounds like quite a year! Would be great if you beat you Guiness World record again.
TE - yes, I misunderstood what you said about adders, the prevalence thereof.
'OO' - some funerals can be almost happy, in a way, when someone has died after a long, fulfilled life, - but I'm afraid your experience today will have been very different.
Still very cold here but we have had quite a bit of sunshine which cheers things up considerably. I ran 7 and a bit miles including another 1-2-3-4-5-4-3-2-1 pyramid. Christened my new shoes. They seem very satisfactory.
Went out for a 4.1 mile shamble over flattish terrain at fractionally under 10 minute miling. Only another 300 miles and I may speed up a bit.GrendelI've run 38 minutes for 5 miles in my mid-60s so you ought to ba able to better that. I may have run a 37 as well but CBA to check.Redheadyou are well prepared for a marathon PB so aim high. You must start at a bit faster than PB pace because you will inevitably slow over the second half.Next time I bite into a hot cross bun I will think of you.JJ
Just received an email from Runners World admitting various problems with the website. They are working on them. At least they acknowledge it at last.JJ
It's bad enough to hear a friend has died in terrible circumstances. It's another thing to go and meet his family including young children and see their tears, then see the wooden box that used to be your friend.
No run today, just a lot of drink. Take care.
00 50, Sounds like a very tough day for you yesterday, losing your friend and seeing his family so upset. I suggest you go for a run today, as it does help to ease the pain.
Had a 10 mile run with the club last night.
(((00))), I feel your pain. We were in that same situation a few weeks ago.
I haven't run yet as I've been busy with my buns and biscuits. I shall be out there this afternoon for a tempo run.
Red, hope you have a good tempo run. I won't say I hope you enjoy it, as if run correctly shouldn't be enjoyable until completed.
A rest day today and really looking forward to an 18 mile run tomorrow morning with Helen and Chris.
Feeling better today. 16 miler to make up for a poor week. Buns sound nice Redhead
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