My road to Rio

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14/08/2012 at 22:45
Tricky dicky I'm sure making yourself sick is counter productive.
14/08/2012 at 23:07

Hi Andy, yeh I agree sacrifices need to be made, depends how much you want it. And wow, 100mpw for a 'recreational' runner? I won't be doing them miles until at least 2 years methinks. 

My interval session is 5 x 1km at 3:40 pace - 5 seconds per K faster than my current 5km pb w/ 200m jog recovery. Should I make my intervals faster, how should I progress it? 

Edited: 14/08/2012 at 23:07
14/08/2012 at 23:30
Safe to say I want it a fair bit, I dont drink, eat rubbish food hardly unless birthday cake, or christmas, I religiously make sure to get enough sleep even having an hour in between runs if needed, probably getting about 12hours a day of sleep. I do take my training pretty seriously to the point where I think of it like something thats a basic part of the day like eating, breathing an so on. I barely compromise on it because when you really want it you have to pretty much consider running well as your number 1 priority. After doing 5k)-16:22. 10k)-34:38. And HM in 1:16:56 people suggested some speed work so 5 weeks ago I started doing 12x400 in 72-75secs with 75 sec walk recoverys. At first it felt hard as hell but its become managable now so I have introduced a tempo sort of run this week, you could probably benefit from VERY VERY GRADUALLY adding slow miles to your training so that as well as improve your pure speed you also learn to be able to keep it going because of increased endurance.
14/08/2012 at 23:35
You may want to think about doing shorter reps of say 400 if it allows you to improve the actual quality of the session.
This morning I did this for example 1.20 1.14 1.13 1.17 1.15 1.15 1.13 1.13 1.14 1.15 1.15 1.15 1.14 I felt I could of gone faster on most of them by a few seconds but then if you cant walk the next day then its not really helping. So I'll keep my session like this for the time being. To focus on my marathon pace workouts.
If I were you and was going to focus on shorter distances then you really dont wanna be doing a marathon at your age its really going to hinder you for the time being.
15/08/2012 at 09:03

Andy, did you start off as a 5k speciailist, but then added a huge amount of training?

100miles a week is one hell of an input for the 10k and half times you quote...however, they look pretty soft compared to your 5k time, so should see an improvement soon I'd have thought.

Have you taken advice in ramping up to 100miles a week, or got help in structuring it?

ps Tricky was being ironic...seems the younger generation can't spot this these days!

15/08/2012 at 09:37
I saw Asafa Powell puking in the Michael Johnson doc recently after a hard training session. I know he didn't quite make the grade on the day but I put that down to the ginger beard rahter than the puking.
15/08/2012 at 09:49

to be honest at 21yrs old unless your times are in the 14mins i wouldnt be giving up women and beer.  some things are not worth giving up. 

15/08/2012 at 10:16

I thought it was a black beard with puke in it!

Mike Rushed On - just to give you a perspective of where you are there is a local 16 year old, Abbie Hetherington, who is currently ranked first or second U17 in country at 1500m - she was in local paper last night. Her ultimate dream is to qualify for the Olympic Games not in 4 years time but 8 years time.

This is probably because she has been trying for a long time and knows how hard it is to improve and what a long journey it will be. This year she has run a 2:08 800m and a 4:26 1500m. She trains for 2 hours 6 days a week. However her PB times at both distances have only improved by a second over last year.

Good luck and chase your dream but get some help to pick some achievable short term goals that will give you pleasure and excitement along the way just in case you don't ever get that Olympic Gold.

15/08/2012 at 10:18
Mmm. Post race interviews with Olympic rowers were talking about boatloads of puke. Cyclists said the same. Sure, you don't run with the intention of throwing up, but I'm poetically pointing at the sort of effort levels consistently needed.... To get to Rio. Have you never thrown up after an intense run Andy? I have. Bloody painful it was too and I didn't enjoy it. And I am not even thinking about going to Rio as a spectator.
15/08/2012 at 10:24
Skinny Fetish Fan wrote (see)

Mike Rushed On - just to give you a perspective of where you are there is a local 16 year old, Abbie Hetherington, who is currently ranked first or second U17 in country at 1500m - she was in local paper last night. Her ultimate dream is to qualify for the Olympic Games not in 4 years time but 8 years time.

This is probably because she has been trying for a long time and knows how hard it is to improve and what a long journey it will be. This year she has run a 2:08 800m and a 4:26 1500m. She trains for 2 hours 6 days a week. However her PB times at both distances have only improved by a second over last year.

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Has she tried running a parkrun every week?

15/08/2012 at 10:29
But does she really, really want it? I think the X-factor mentality of people standing in front of the camera and saying " I really, really want this more than anything" has a lot to answer for. Talk is cheap.
15/08/2012 at 10:33
Aimed at the OP and definitely not the 16 year old or the Welsh boy btw. Andy's report of his hard 400's this morning are far more impressive than "I really want a zigger zag har" rants.
15/08/2012 at 11:10

The road is long
With many a winding turn
That leads us to who knows where
Who knows when
But I'm strong

15/08/2012 at 11:15
Stevie G . wrote (see)

Andy, did you start off as a 5k speciailist, but then added a huge amount of training?

100miles a week is one hell of an input for the 10k and half times you quote...however, they look pretty soft compared to your 5k time, so should see an improvement soon I'd have thought.

Stevie G - i started off as an average jogger just wanting to run but not really knowing why, first ever run was exactly a mile in 6 mins, like alot of people i made the classic mistake of thinking you have to do every run flat out to get to professional standards ha ha how wrong that approach was after about 5 months of this i had done no official races but did a 10k in training each week "PB"ing with 41 mins, then heard about the Snowdonia marathon, waited till 18yrs old then did it in 4:12 (massive struggle, off of 25-30mpw) over the next 3years the mileage just crept up by the smallest bit each week, it was only when i got to 20 it occured to me that to get good i need to start focusing on specific  10k`s and HM`s then the really good PB`s started to happen.

Stevie G . wrote (see)

Have you taken advice in ramping up to 100miles a week, or got help in structuring it?

No i`ve been self coaching to be honest, though i have been watching these Forums/Threads to pick up any little bits of advice, well that and reading a whole range of Books about successfull people ie Charlie Spedding, Ron hill, Steve jones and the kenyans.

15/08/2012 at 11:18
dean richardson 7 wrote (see)

to be honest at 21yrs old unless your times are in the 14mins i wouldnt be giving up women and beer.  some things are not worth giving up. 

Sorry Dean i dont mean to be disrespectfull or anything but i think thats a bit of a defeatist way to approach things, if we all thought that there wouldn`t be any good runners anywhere.

15/08/2012 at 11:26

I think Dean was just trying to put some perspective on this particular situation, like a lot of people have attempted to do.  If the difference between a semi-elite runner becoming an also-ran or an Olympic contender was giving up 90% of their social habits, that's one thing.  If the Olympic thing is no more than a pipe-dream, for the time being you're better off trying to strike a sensible training/life balance and see where it takes you.  I don't think that's defeatist, I think it's pretty sensible.

15/08/2012 at 11:35

I think the key to the OP developing a realistic approach will be the joining of an AC.

It's one thing coming high up in your average park run, where the atmosphere is casual, and the standard is low, but quite another thing when you're surrounded in your own club by younger and much faster runners.

15/08/2012 at 11:37

And sex is good for stretching your calf muscles after an LSR!

If Jess Ennis can have a fiance (lucky bloke!) and train for 7 events then surely you don't have to give up on a GF just to run - even 100 miles a week is only about 12 hours - just harder to find the right GF - join a running club - hey presto - lots of fit young totty that shares your interest - bingo!!

Much better than being mentalled in a night club as a way of finding the right life partner.

Edited: 15/08/2012 at 11:39
15/08/2012 at 11:41

So are we all agreed that Mike should join a running club?

15/08/2012 at 11:48

Skinny, who said you were allowed to leave your training thread

And I'm not sure what running club's you've been lucky enough to be part of!!

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