Northern Ireland Running - Page 25 - General running

baldyfrombangor

04/05/2005 at 21:54

Seamus, thats a repeat of a regular from dublin. In the past when the race coincided with the train from the south arriving and no shops open, he turned up with nowt but is brogues. Went on to finish the whole thing.

Not too concerned with extra bit now, irrelevent, you cant change the times, how would you do it and what would be the point.

But how do we get rid of morons that caused it to happen, especially in sport??

Lisburn is great, tough but well run adn well attended. Will be running with work folk at their paces. May set up a timed pace group, any thoughts??

Kenneth Bacon

06/05/2005 at 09:33

Hi everyone it's all gone quiet after the marathon. I went for a massage last night to try and speed up my recovery. The achilles is still sore so I am resting but might try a light run on Sunday.

Baldy what speed would the pace group go at in Lisburn. Hows the groin.

The re-routing was one of the few things that the organisers got right I just hope they listen and take on board what the runners are saying because if the runners stay away that will be the end of the marathon. What is badly missing in Belfast is a major sponsor who would help fund some of the things that people are complaining about. It would be a pity if we lost the only marathon in the North.
I think they should return to runners acting as marshals as they know what is required to run a successful race. When runners marshal they keep everybody right and give encouragement to the competitors. This year a lot of the marshals standing along the route had no interest in the marathon and were only there for the money. I know its something to do with insurance but maybe runners could work along with these people. I know when we organise a race the marshal are encouraged to give the runners a bit of support.

James Hislop

06/05/2005 at 11:36

Hi Kenny I think I have recovered now, Angela & I are going for a run on the beach tomorrow and I might join up with springwell on sunday, will you be going?

Ian there are plenty of morons who try and ruin events, like what happened on monday but there are a lot of events where organisation and security (London) where everything runs smoothly.
I dont agree with what happened but I dont like the way the course was changed twice to make people happy.
They should've chosen a route and stuck by it, it is a sporting event not a political or religious argument. If they change the route it should be changed to make it better. Not impressed

My praise for the PSNI also for the way they delt with the problem.
If you were Hugh Ord would you run the Belfast Marathon next year? would be a 'no surrender' attitude or will he pull out so the rest of us can run it?

Kenneth Bacon

06/05/2005 at 15:13

Hi James I might go out on the bike on Sunday and give anyone who is suffering a lift on the bar. I think I will wait until Monday and run on the grass at lunchtime.

London has the advantage in that they have full time organisers and a much larger budget.

I think it might be a good idea to have a two lap marathon, with a half marathon and relay. It would cut down the number of relay teams because some of them would do the half it would also cut down on the number of marshals. Hopefully you would have more support.

If I go to a race in which Hugh Ord is running I'll give him a wide berth.

James Hislop

06/05/2005 at 15:26

Kenneth Bacon

06/05/2005 at 15:35

James could you bring your camera up at the weekend so I can download the pic of the marathon. Might send a few through to the papers to see if they print them.
The pics are up on the Belfast site. 10 of you.

James Hislop

06/05/2005 at 16:10

I'll have a look in a bit, I'll bring the camera on sunday.

seamus henry

07/05/2005 at 00:18

Hi everybody - I haven't run since Belfast - will run tomorrow.

Ian - Last year I did Lisburn half in 2hrs 20secs so I would be too slow in running with a pacing group.

Kenny - You did well in Belfast considering you were carrying an achilles injury.

James - Every run does not always go the way you plan it. I was very relaxed in Dublin last October and ran the marathon in 4hrs 4 mins a PB - in Belfast I was totally focused and only did it in 4 hrs 21 mins.

I think that if you over prepare a lot of your energy could be left on the training ground.

I'm still inspired by a friend of mine a 53 year old who forgot his running shoes and did the 27.2 yes 27.2 the extra mile in the Belfast marathon in 4 hrs 48 mins - I'll be using that as a spur in the Longford marathon.

From now on I'm going to train harder at home with more hill runs.

The best of luck to all other runners on this thread.

A few more friends are complaining about the bussing to the changeovers at the relays - they say that the busdrivers weren't trained on where to go and it was a complete disaster as they saw their runners from the bus passing as the bus only got to the changeover place.

I would rather run an extra mile than chase after a relay runner.

Kenneth Bacon

07/05/2005 at 09:17

Seamus the achilles didn't realy bother me during the run I gace it a good rub with tiger balm before I left home. I felt it a bit going down the grassy slope when we were re-routed. My groin got very sore over the last couple of mile and caused me to slow down.

I think maybe Connermara is still in your legs Seamus which may have slowed you down. Two marathons in a month take their toll especially when you get to or age. Maybe that is why you ran a PB in Dublin because its a good course and you were well prepared. When is Longford? I am thinking about Dublin, a few members of the club might be interested.

Don't rush back too quickly give yourself time to recover run as you feel if you feel like doing 3 mile do it if you feel like doing 10 do it listen to your body for a few weeks. I am feeling very tired this week evry evening when I come home from work I just want to sit do watch the TV and fall asleep.

I think you will run better in Lisburn this year if I go we could set up our pacing group sub 2 hrs. I would like to get under 1:50 which I think is possible if I get over these injuries quickly.

Kenneth Bacon

07/05/2005 at 21:45

NIAF website says the extra distance on Monday was 1180m.

seamus henry

07/05/2005 at 22:44

Hi Kenny I did 6 miles this evening in 52 mins and felt good.

Longford is on the last Sunday of August 28th at 10.00am. Its a very flat course - flatter than Belfast this year.

I had serious calf cramps after the marathon as I sat about for a while and didn't release them by stretching straight after the marathon

I was OK the following day.

Kenny - I think I will run my own race at Lisburn - I have a habit of starting too quickly and then tiring in the later stages. In training I'm going to try to stay strong for the last few miles.

baldyfrombangor

08/05/2005 at 21:47

Well hi all,

getting over my dodgy groin, am going to start back out tomorrow. There is only so much ice a guy can take!!!

Am going to venture out tomorrow night.

I am going to gear up for a few good 10ks with the aim of a good run at the longford mara. Hope to have a good hard summer.

Kenny, I was thinking of about 1.50-1.55 for a pace group at lisburn with the aim of a 3.59 group for Dublin. Have a few takers at work so far for both.

James what goals are you setting yourself ahead of edinburgh, have a good think about your race plan there, it could be difficult in June, hot and hilly!

Seamus dont you go doing too much old man!!!

seamus henry

08/05/2005 at 22:04

Hi everybody - its good to be back running.

Ian I did 5 miles this evening and did my last mile in 7 mins 30 secs - so I felt good. I'm going to do a bit of hard training towards the end of most runs to increase my stamina for the later miles in a marathon.

I broke in a new pair of Asic Gel Kayanos today. I think I'll keep using these shoes from now on. I've been using Nike Pegasus and Nike Kantara as well.

Kenny - I hope the achilles is improving - give it steady gentle stretching.

Some people still claim that the extra distance was more than the 1180 metres that they say it was.

James - Are you back in training yet?

James Hislop

09/05/2005 at 09:04

Hi everyone
Went out for my first run yesterday with springwell, not sure of distance but it was a steady pace for 1hr45 legs felt a little tight afterwards but I feel good for it now, I'm going to rest now until thursday.

Ian, I am going to try and find a thread today about the edinburgh mara to see if anyone has any tips on the course, have you done Edinburgh?

Good to hear your training again Seamus, are you planning to do the Dublin Marathon?

Kenneth Bacon

09/05/2005 at 09:14

Hi everyone
Went out yesterday for an easy run but the achilles and groin still sore so I cut short and cmae home. I OK walk about its just when I try to run. Looks like its more rest amd ice packs. I have been stretching amybe have to go to physio to see what I've damaged.

Ian if I get into training son I would be interested in the pacing group. But if I am out for a while will have to give Lisburn a miss.

Don't try to too much too soon Seamus

Louise Finlay

09/05/2005 at 14:11

Where is the best place to find out about runs in northern ireland or ireland?

Kenneth Bacon

09/05/2005 at 15:15

Hi calypso For Northern Ireland look on the NIAF wbesite
www.niathletics.org
click on fixtures and then on cross country and road running.
This will gice you most of the local races. There may also be few small races which are not registered with the NIAF which woulf be advertised locally.
For Ireland
www.athleticsireland.ie
click on calender gives you a list again there may a few races which are not run under AAI.
What distance are you interested in? Where do you live and how far are you will to travel to race?

baldyfrombangor

09/05/2005 at 21:51

gentle 6m in 48 tonight, legs fine and more importantly the groin was fine. Will aim to do simliar all week with rest on fri and 13 on sat, fingers crossed.

James, did einburgh last year, roasting hot all day. Great run, has a relay event and you woldnt even have noticed the changeovers!! first two miles were up Arthurs seat, third was down. My splits were 7.45, 7.15 and 5.45!! well organised but not pb course. will give you the full rundown if you want.

Calypso, also try the clubs local to where you are going, we ahd a guy over from San Diego last year, took him out for club runs and races. Now he is trying to find excue to get back!!

James Hislop

10/05/2005 at 08:58

yes please Ian

James Hislop

10/05/2005 at 16:55

Ian, do you get a medal when completing the Edinburgh Marathon?
I have been looking on the web site today, the map is quite detailed with water & energy stops, the profile of the course doesnt look to hilly and in the pics from last year I saw that they use bottled water so I'm going without a belt.

Seamus how are you feeling a week after the marathon? how are your new trainers feeling?

Kenny I'm not running tonight, I'm back in training from thursday I was a little tired after sunday and I'm looking at a few cars tonight. Would you rate G+A Gage in Ballymoney any?