overtaking etiquette

.........what are the rules lol

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06/04/2013 at 10:19

Mr Puffy, most people would try to roughly gauge where they need to start based on their planned pace but it will never be completely right, plus you'll get latecomers and over ambitious slowcoaches. There'll always be a need to overtake in a race.

When I did my last 10K I had to run back to my car just before the start, meaning I started the race right at the back. The first mile was disastrously slow as I was stuck behind all the really slow people for whom a 10k is an epic endurance event. I wanted to record a decentish time so I was basically overtaking people all the way - which was actually quite fun. In normal circumstances, if I know I'm going quite slow, or am matching some other runners for pace, I'll always make sure I slot in in front of or behind the group, rather than next to them, so that there's always room for overtakers. You run your own race but when you're in an event, you have to be aware that there are other people around you who will be running it differently to you.

06/04/2013 at 10:57

Hi Puffy ........I started in the correct pen to finish around 1 hr 50  running av 8 min miles , if I,d put my self forward in the 1 hr 30 pen  I would have ended up doing the exact thing I,m moaning about others doing.There were 11 min milers running in the 8 min mile pen..........it was up the grass verge or trample on them

06/04/2013 at 13:39

The chap who starts on the very front line of the Wokingham half each year could do with reading this thread and sorting himself out.

 

When you're running halves in 1hr 50, and you line up at the very front of the narrow start line (say 10-12runners wide) of a quality local half, alongside sub 1hr 10 guys, then you're asking to be blasted by about 500 people before 1/2mile is reached!

06/04/2013 at 19:40

I'm now not looking forward to the Manc 10k as I've put myself in a far slower band (mates pace) than my actual pace

06/04/2013 at 21:20

Pacing groups can be a problem, had to make an early pit stop at London once then had to fight my way through the 3:30 pace group on my way to a 3:15.

As to wether you "should" overtake the answer is yes, I ran the Youths National XC at Parliament Hill many, many years ago. At the top of the first climb there were about 10 runners behind me and during the race I must have passed another 20+ catching the last one 10 meters from the finish.....my final position....530th out of 531.

06/04/2013 at 23:57

   Power to the ultra hippys!

be they fast or be they slow

pretty ladies or  lardy 

blokes. 

Give them a smile and plenty of space

after all are we not  

first and foremost in the human

race?

 

I'm more Paganish than Hippy. 

( i'm not Wacky.)

 

 

 

09/04/2013 at 23:54
Look at race map,study it on google earth to plan your attack,.i did Salisbury half a couple of years ago,and we over took loads on the hills as we knew where they were..

Iam not a fast runner but it was fun over taking peeps that blew all thier energy in first few miles.before hill

One thing I hate is where some one pulls in front of you as they just wanted to get past you to prove some point,then won't get out the way when they hold you up!
10/04/2013 at 08:29

If someone is ever rude or obnoxious enough to literally barge past me because l have the audacity to run with 2 or 3 others just to shave 5 seconds off their finishing time then i'll kick their legs clean away from them.

This is supposed to be a social/enjoyable activity but some of the behaviour advocated in this thread id be pretty surprised to see in a bar full of drunks.

Also interesting to see it's those on here who are clearly a damn sight faster than average that are displaying this sort of arrogance.

10/04/2013 at 12:23

works both ways Gareth.  You are showing the same rudeness and being obnoxious by not allowing others to pass just because you want to trot along at your pace because you started too far forward on the start line.

 

10/04/2013 at 12:31
Gareth Edwards 21 wrote (see)

..... the behaviour advocated in this thread id be pretty surprised to see in a bar full of drunks.

Gareth Edwards 21 wrote (see)

 ....i'll kick their legs clean away from them.


Good to see you joining in the spirit of the thread Gareth  

10/04/2013 at 12:35
Gareth Edwards 21 wrote (see)

If someone is ever rude or obnoxious enough to literally barge past me because l have the audacity to run with 2 or 3 others just to shave 5 seconds off their finishing time then i'll kick their legs clean away from them.

 

You'll have to catch me first.

10/04/2013 at 13:13

An eye for an eye and all that. Might teach them some manners in the future.

l find it impossible to believe that there is never enough room to overtake someone in a safe and polite manner.

God forbid those overtaking should ever have to move over 5 yards to help save a 1/3rd of a second on their time.

10/04/2013 at 13:13
literatin wrote (see)
Gareth Edwards 21 wrote (see)

If someone is ever rude or obnoxious enough to literally barge past me because l have the audacity to run with 2 or 3 others just to shave 5 seconds off their finishing time then i'll kick their legs clean away from them.

 

You'll have to catch me first.

id make a mental note of your race number

10/04/2013 at 13:17

How will you see his number?

 

10/04/2013 at 13:20
Stevie G . wrote (see)

The chap who starts on the very front line of the Wokingham half each year could do with reading this thread and sorting himself out.

 

As could the school girls who ignored the race director's advice at parkrun the other week, started at the front and were suprised to be knocked over by the scrum coming past them (who admittedly should have been more careful!).

10/04/2013 at 13:21

cos he's one of those vain types that puts in on the back of his bib to reduce the drag and as it annoys him flapping in the wind as he's running so quickly.

 

Swoooooooooooooooosh!

10/04/2013 at 13:22

Ahem. I think you mean she's one of those vain types... etc.

10/04/2013 at 13:34

Nope - still visualising Gareth attacking David - it's like some sort of unholy cross between "Equus", "Caligula" and pantomime .... 

10/04/2013 at 13:37

A race is a race. Overtaking sort of goes with the territory - or am I doing it wrong?

10/04/2013 at 13:38

If someone pushed me as I tried to get through then they wouldn't be finishing the race as my shin would be meeting one of their chins.

Runners with MP3's should be picked out by marshalls and put into their own starting pen at the back so they can all be ignorant to each other and give the rest of us peace.

There's no overtaking etiquette, pass wherever there's a space however if everyone is sensible about their starting position then overtaking would happen gradually and evenly. I've went flying past people in 10k road races before and it isn't ideal for me or the person I'm overtaking, all it takes is one step to the side and we're both done.

As for starting pens, the Hull 10k last year was terrible for this, a massive group of first timers all huddled in the sub35 area  the start was a farce, I was reduced to a walk and just ended up charging through.

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