overtaking etiquette

.........what are the rules lol

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05/04/2013 at 08:11

Did a half the other week, I don,t tend to do many road races as prefer off road fell type stuff.Anyhow I placed myself at the start in the correct finish time bay  the gun goes and we are off.It becomes very evident after the first mile that most runners around me were in the wrong bay at the start.I,m getting really pee,d offand having to go up grass verges to get around large groups of 11 min mile runners.........who have started in the 8 min mile bay.Anyhow we come to a hill and at 3 miles some are virtually walking , Its a stretch with high banking on so it forms a bottle neck, I,m virtually running on top of slower people as are other runners too , so I tap the lady in front who has an mp3 on and is running with a friend , and shout coming through,she looks daggers at me , so I squeeze myself through smiling , and get a shove  which nearly knocked me over , then a load abuse about not passing on the left and you should pass on the right ..........she was bigger than me so it just made me run faster. But seriously whats the etiquette here ??

05/04/2013 at 08:51

People who race with headphones on turn me right off anyway.

05/04/2013 at 08:58
If they are going to start in the wrong pens and wear headphones then they can't really have a go at you about etiquette.

I never knew there was rules regarding passing on the right or left.
WiB
05/04/2013 at 09:10
David Falconer 3 wrote (see)

"then a load abuse about not passing on the left and you should pass on the right"

Never heard of that one before. Its a race, not a gentlemens stroll through a park. Tell em to f... off.

 

 

Spot on.

WiB
05/04/2013 at 09:12

It isn't the motorway, you pass wherever the space is, to the left or the right.

Slower runners and walkers should keep to the side (imo more race marshalls need to emphasis this) and the overtaker needs to time their overtaking so that they don't have to shove past - I know it can be difficult but it is possible.

seren nos yn canu    pirate
05/04/2013 at 09:12

in a race you overtake wherever you see there is a gap......

Pudge    pirate
05/04/2013 at 09:14
roeby wrote (see)

...so I tap the lady in front who has an mp3 on and is running with a friend , and shout coming through,she looks daggers at me , so I squeeze myself through smiling , and get a shove  which nearly knocked me over , then a load abuse about not passing on the left and you should pass on the right ....

Giving you the daggers I would just put down to her being a stroppy bint.  Some people are just that way out, and I'd have treated it as water off a duck's back.  However, shoving you is just plain out of order and petty, as is shouting abuse at you.  Despite her being bigger than you, I'd have been tempted to deck her if I was you.

Never heard of rules or etiquette regarding passing on any particular side??  It's a running route, not a dual carriageway.

05/04/2013 at 09:15

If I'm trying to get past people who are in my way I'll give a wheezy "'scuse me chaps, coming past on the right" or something like that. Works for the vast majority.

If it's a busy race and getting past folk means weaving around a bit I try to glance behind and indicate that I'm veering left or right.

If someone's trying to get past me I'll move over if possible.

If someone is wearing headphones I assume they're in their own little world and are unaware of me so I just ignore and barge through.

It is a race not a stroll in the park but a little courtesy is nice. Other than to the mp3 muppets.

Edited: 05/04/2013 at 09:16
05/04/2013 at 09:46
Pudge wrote (see)
 

Giving you the daggers I would just put down to her being a stroppy bint.  Some people are just that way out, and I'd have treated it as water off a duck's back.  However, shoving you is just plain out of order and petty, as is shouting abuse at you.  Despite her being bigger than you, I'd have been tempted to deck her if I was you.

 

Mostly this, short of the physical violence.  I would've given her some serious fcuking verbal though.

05/04/2013 at 09:48

with mutts on this, a 'coming thru to the left/right' works well.
More so funnily enough where I run near work (London Embankment) where you get groups of work runners 3 / 4 abreast.
Headphone geeks (in races) get the respect they deserve, so a nudge/barge as I go past if there is no room. Well they didn't hear the 'keep left' did they?

Pudge    pirate
05/04/2013 at 09:50
PhilPub wrote (see)
Pudge wrote (see)
 

Giving you the daggers I would just put down to her being a stroppy bint.  Some people are just that way out, and I'd have treated it as water off a duck's back.  However, shoving you is just plain out of order and petty, as is shouting abuse at you.  Despite her being bigger than you, I'd have been tempted to deck her if I was you.

 

Mostly this, short of the physical violence.  I would've given her some serious fcuking verbal though.

MP3 woman started it!  An eye for an eye and all that.

05/04/2013 at 09:54

OK, enough of a "counter-nudge" to make her stumble with mild peril. 

05/04/2013 at 10:18

I mean, I'm very much in the middle of the field and am never going to win anything so it doesn't really matter if I'm a couple of places up or down.

But we should tip our hats to DF3 in gratitude for the leading pack perspective on this

05/04/2013 at 10:26
seren nos wrote (see)

in a race you overtake wherever you see there is a gap......

Steve Ovett was highly skilled in that department

05/04/2013 at 11:32

to be fair i have heard of passing on the right eg run on the left in trail running.

however if they have left room for you to pass on the left they clearly are not following the rules they expect of you.  So balls to them.

for me, If there is space then i pass with care,  if im getting blocked then they get moved aside if they do not move when i politely ask.

05/04/2013 at 11:44
Joe Volcano wrote (see)
seren nos wrote (see)

in a race you overtake wherever you see there is a gap......

Steve Ovett was highly skilled in that department

Did you see any of the European Indoor championships races? They make running on a 400m outdoor track look like a bunch of people saying 'after you, Claude'.

05/04/2013 at 12:27

I was pretty pee,d off by her behaviour tbh , what is it about mp3 ,s...............and iphones aswell !...........another woman I passed had hers in a strap on her arm it fell out and broke into bits .........she caused a bit of a kerfuffle trying get all the bits up.In future I,ll avoid that race and stick to off roading , never had any probs before, .

05/04/2013 at 12:38

I blame the headphones. They should be banned altogether from races. A blight and a menace.

05/04/2013 at 12:45

if it was a road race and a half, it was probably a pretty big race in terms of entrants? Whether or no that's the case, you find a lot of idiots in the alrger ones. 

I ran a 10k in Littlehampton last year - the whole thing was for a local hospice - but by God there were some idiots! Not letting you pass, cuting in front of you, stopping dead with no warning (mainly beacsue they's started too early and run out of puff).

I ran teh London Marathon in 2000 so I've done the whole big-crowd-thing, but now I tend towwards small events. Less idiots. More fun.

05/04/2013 at 12:45

Nicky - some race organisers do ban headphones - check out the Trionium races.

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