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26/09/2012 at 14:22

Afternoon all

Much nicer day today down here, no rain and very little wind, had a good run, not too much storm damage here so looks like we missed the worst of it.

57.5 - I agree.

It is interesting how many races are now having to pitch their websites differently and really lay it on with the emphasis of actually this is really really hard and you will need to navigate etc. Lakeland 100 website is now worded quite differently to how it was last year after they had 60% dnf rate this year  (although hard to tell how much of that was because folks were sick of 24hrs++ of wet feet and their skin falling off, rather than just underprepared fitness wise ). I don't think they ask for proof of what races you have done though.....they certainly didnt on the 50.

Centurion have changed from nothing to 'you must have done at least marathon distance' to 'you must have done 30m or more within cut-off'. Problem is people dont read anything / the small print these days, so by the time they have tried to enter then got to the part were it says 'list experience', they have already crashed the server .

Internet entry makes it too easy, (and too easy to get swept up in the hype), because it gives this 'instant fix' that the public seem to crave, thats the problem IMO.

Cragchick - yeah, so many races out there. I like to have a 'focus' race, a biggie to train for, but I'm also all for keeping my options open. And if one year nothing comes up, thats fine too. Shock horror I may even concentrate on shorter distances one year ....LOL nah only kidding .


26/09/2012 at 20:15

I agree - for these very tough events, people should have to provide some evidence of being prepared  - not fair for those who have no chance of finishing to take places, keeping more 'genuine' participants out.

Mrs Mac - if you do enter the Templeton 10, let me know your number, or what you'll be wearing, so we can meet.

Nice day here today. Nice run, about 4.5 miles, easy pace, but quite hilly.

26/09/2012 at 21:00

I will do Alison

Agree with everything you say TP, FB etc has a lot to answer for! Still can't believe people managed to crash a 100 mile race website WHW has a bit of the 'social media hype' too but the entry remains strict.

cragchick & 57.5, those kind of runs are great eh? Extreme weather, no-one around, anyone who is giving you strange looks! LOVE

Track Ultras aren't that bad, just a very different mindset. I've done four 12 hour track races and three 24 hour track races ( also did another three 24 hour races but the loops were longer, 1 - 4 miles) I like them because it all about number crunching, ticked off the miles at Glenmore by comparing it to WHW landmarks. I was thinking about the 24 or 48 hour option for that race, I'm not daft enough for the 6-day race


26/09/2012 at 21:10

Mrs Mac - that's Sichel territory isn't it!

Had a nice little run with our friend from Germany who is visiting on Monday, first time I've been brave enough to try to keep up with one of the others for ages. House bound trying to do paperwork last couple of nights, itching to get out tomorrow.

Doesn't seem to be anything doing on the Glen Ogle waiting list so prob the Culloden run for me next.

26/09/2012 at 21:24

Mrs Mac - I can kinda see the appeal in some respects, ticking off the laps, getting into a rhythm, it must make it a lot more straightforward for food stops too, I just think personally I would find it very hard.

Good running Alison and Elspeth.

Elspeth - if GO doesnt work out how about Jedburgh? Hilly....muddy....flooded river ....(probably).....what more could you want?

Orkney work coming tommorrow morning so the boat must have been okay today.

26/09/2012 at 21:43

Elspeth - I'm going to remove myself from the Glen Ogle list, I'm quite far down but it might help you a little!!!  From their fb page I think they are keen to let as many run as possible ... another victim of FB advertising??  Did want to do it but not really done enough training and really do need to be at home that weekend ... am training to teach pilates at the moment and it's taking up a LOT of domestic time.

Mrs Mac - I too get the 'ticking off the numbers' thing, part of the appeal of ultras to me is the head games as that is often the overiding decider on whether you finish or not - what your head can tell your body to do/ignore!!!

Have been surprised how many ultra runners either don't like or are not able to navigate, but then I love that extra challenge probably a reflection of my hillwalking/mountaineering background and why I love mountain marathons ... in fact I'd love a crack at the Spine Race ... 2014 maybe?

No exilerating running here today, but a swift 5 miles round Culbin, lots of debris but hardly any wind which made a change.  Off in persuit of something a bit longer tomorrow and probably involving bogs and mud. Have a new rucsac to trial - well it better work as I doubt I'll be able to send it back!!

26/09/2012 at 21:50

I do now prefer the off-roady type Ultras but if there's another track race in Britain and its a friend organising it - it'd be rude not to wouldn't it?

Elspeth, I have it on good authority that they are still trying to put on the S2S Ultra again. If I hear anything I'll let you know.

What kind of rucsac did you get cragchick? I've been thinking about a new one.

26/09/2012 at 21:54

MrsMac - I saw 3 people, 2 dogs and a hedgehog in 8 miles. That's why I like the arrival of the winter for proper lonely runs!

I think my main motivation for running an ultra is to see how far it looks on a map. So the A to B route is where it's at.

27/09/2012 at 05:51


Had a nice few days up in Stornoway. My niece is almost fully recovered.

4 easy miles done

Morning Tri

Lots to catch up on I see.

Brekkie calling

27/09/2012 at 07:33

morning BM

glad your niece is getting better.

run and swim tonight here. Great spin and circuit training last night.


27/09/2012 at 11:58

Hey BM is back .

No run this morning, currently waiting in for courier......

Parents up this weekend so that is going to put a serious dent in the training (and my sanity) .

Good luck everyone going to Loch Nessie at the weekend . Look forward to some good reports.

27/09/2012 at 13:58

Was going to try a long run today but just not got head in right place, so off into the hills anyway, much bog - some amazing bog moss to admire (soooo many different colours, looked fab) and not a lot of path, soaking wet feet (which I couldn't feel by the end), 8 miles lates in a much better state of mind!!

MrsMac - it's a Nathan Intensity Hydration Vest - and I loved it actually. Really comfortable as I can never get waists on packs to sit right. Got it from ChainReaction Cycles. Can fit quite a bit in it, but not too much!!

Ooh yes, forgot about Lochness Mara - GOODLUCK! Guess some of my club will be across doing that.

TP - , deep breathes, keep sane. Is it just for the weekend? Mine are coming in October for a whole week. Will be lovely to see them and kids are v excited but 8 days is a loooong time!

Edited: 27/09/2012 at 14:00
27/09/2012 at 15:06

Mrs Mac/Cragchick/TP - thanks - would love to do GO again but not likely as no movement on waiting list, Jedburgh I suspect is too far away and too long but I don't know, S2S would be great - let me know if it's running Mrs Mac.

Still up to my eyes in paperwork at work it's driving me crazy

Think I need a run to sort my head out to!

Good to have BM back!

27/09/2012 at 16:13

Hm, I was wondering if S2S would be on - dithered and didn't do last year, but might not dither and actually do this year. If I keep at it, might be back in some kind of fitness by December!!

27/09/2012 at 17:17

Cragchick - ooh no, they are only here for the weekend, 8 days really would drive me nuts . Hoping for good weather on Saturday so I can take them out, otherwise they just sit at my dining table and neb out the window all day refusing to move .

Hope you get a run Elspeth.

Courier came eventually, boxes so wet I could peel the cardboard back with my hands !! He said he had been driving through floods - yeah it looked like it!!! Unbelievable. Looks like they floated them across from Orkney rather than using the boat!!! Luckily all samples wrapped in plastic bags so just a little damp, they are airing out in back room . Had to inform client just in case, but I dont think anything has been ruined .

27/09/2012 at 19:53

I know what you're saying 57.5, I like the idea of getting to places under my own steam which is why I love Ultras

Thanks for the link cragchick. Thats kind of what I was looking at. I take it you can fit a jacket and some gels/food/phone in? Looks really comfy too.

TP, sounds like my family when they visit. Just loads of sitting around drinking tea Hope you manage to get out.

Elspeth, I'll message you my new mobile number as I can't remember if I sent it to you, in case there's any change for Saturday night.

Highland Fling entries meant to open next week too

27/09/2012 at 20:15


Cheers you lot, good to be back

27/09/2012 at 20:17

Welcome back BM. Glad your neice is improving.

TP  -I agree that a weekend of parents staying is enough. I'm not sure I'd want anyone staying for 8 days!

Good run this evening. On-call at the weekend, but hope to run on Sunday, and to go to Run 4 It to get some new winter gear.

Good luck to those doing Loch Ness.

27/09/2012 at 20:20

Thanks also for good wishes from you all for my niece.


27/09/2012 at 20:24

Yes, you'd definitely get that in the pack, it really was comfy and a relief not to be doing the whole waist adjusting thing! I had about 750ml of water in the bladder, a couple of buffs, windproof top, phone, muesli bar, gloves in it and still room for more. Didn't bounce around at all.

Fling entries - each time I do it I say that even though I love it I don't need to do it again ... but ... yes, I'll be putting an entry in for 2013

I do like the whole 'journey' element of ultras too - they are just like mini adventures to me, in fact often the traveling TO the event is the start of the adventure.

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