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20/11/2012 at 09:22

dry and clearish here still 57.5, bad weather not here yet!  Have two extra kids today (fighting already). Off to Culbin with bikes in a minute I think ....

20/11/2012 at 15:38

Afternoon all

Lol BM and UTC - well, I have been known to do a few 'hills' in the past .

Cragchick - good luck with all the extra kiddies - is it the school hols again? I dunno, teachers eh? Nothing but holidays ........ Good luck also with the treadie - I wouldnt know where to start to look.

MrsMac - I agree with Cragchick - I've had this for years, I just run through it, don't think not running for ages really helps. I've been following the American line that it is a tendonopathy, rather than a tendonitus like they say in UK, so basically it is a degenerative tissue problem, use it or lose it. I dont think resting for long periods makes it any better (it may indeed make it worse) - I think people get into that whole cycle of rest, injure, repeat. The US stuff I read said if you stop using the tendon it shrinks, so naturally when you go back to using it again, perhaps trying to reach the same training intensity as pre-injury, it is more likely to snap .

I've modified my training so I do a lot of slow plodding miles, and a lot of post-run stretching. I rarely do any kind of speed work like intervals etc, I think that is when it is most at risk of snapping. You may find you have to considerably slow down your pace on training runs.

I take fairly regular rest / cross training days through the week, but I also do a lot of back to back long runs with the ultra training, and this doesnt seem to bother it. I got up to an 81m training week last Xmas with no bad effects, but it was all done at slow pace. I keep it going by massaging it and taking a couple of extra rest days eg after a long race if it becomes swollen. Basically I am not going to stop running, I will just keep on going for as long as I can and enjoy it, I may not be able to do it forever, but the problem certainly has not gotten any worse with the kind of running I do .

20/11/2012 at 17:17

TP - yep you've pretty much summed up my philosophy re the achilles!  Also, the achilles is an especially difficult one to get a decent blood supply to, so it takes even longer to repair itself ... anything that keeps/encourages blood flowing to the area is good.

INSET days this time so apparently the teachers are training last two days, this one is always a bit of a killer being not that long after TWO WEEKS of October hols, never mind  ... only five weeks until the next holiday.  Planning to do the Lossie Turkey Trot 10 but think I will need to amend goals due to serious lack of consistent running, let alone speed.

20/11/2012 at 18:04

Oh also - I should probably be honest here - I never ever use pain killers for it. Not because I'm trying to be hard , but because I dont want to 'mask' the problem (or get addicted to Ibuprofen) - I want to be able to feel when I am having a good spell or a bad spell and modify accordingly. At the moment, paws crossed, it is behaving itself.

lol CC - 'inset day' - is that code for 'having a chat and some nice cake and coffee'

(ducks out of thread before gets lynched by all the teachers)

20/11/2012 at 20:19

Wow, thanks for that TP & cragchick

I have always been a 'run through it' runner so I don't know why I think this should be different. I was at the doc today for something else but he always asks me how my running is, so I told him. He was very heavy on the caution because he snapped his achilles before! Gave me a self-referral for for NHS physio and advised strongly against anti-inflammatories as they actually draw blood flow away from the injury. I'll stick the form in, won't cost me anything.

20/11/2012 at 20:56

I have always suffered with the achilles x 2, but at least they are usually a reliable guide to whether new shoes are needed: more pain = get the bank card out. Much better now than a few years ago though so higher mileage is not the problem, and I certainly do no stretching cos I'm a man . Always a little nervous of faster running but they've held up so far.

10 x 600m intervals on the track tonight. no fun, especially the 1.5 laps with 2 straights into the strong wind.

Hope to meet you at the Turkey Trot cragchick.

20/11/2012 at 21:22

You never know 57.5 I may make it to the race yet!

21/11/2012 at 06:21

Morning you lot

5M Steadily done. Dry out here.

Morning Tri

Right stuff to do.


21/11/2012 at 11:57

7 miles in the forest, no run-ins with logging trucks, no bogs, no saltmarshes, no battling through trees etc ... perfect conditions with very little wind!  Now into the afternoon and chaos will resume ... Weds involves traipsing over to Nairn for sons guitar lesson at 5pm and entertaining my daughter for an hour while he strums - sigh!

21/11/2012 at 14:53

Decent run here today too, long run up and down some steep hills (on the pavement), nice weather, very mild no wind . Thought I would make the best of it as tommorrow looks like it is going to be pretty rotten everywhere !

MrsMac - no harm in trying the physio - and free physio is even better .

21/11/2012 at 17:06

When is that turkey trot folks? I'm starting to get race deprivation!

Mrs Mac - hope your achilles settles soon.

Nicer day here, was revolting yesterday, hoping to get a sneaky run in before tea.

21/11/2012 at 19:12

9 December, 11am is the Turkey Trot, I'm entering on the day, with current track record I dare not tempt fate and pre-enter!!

21/11/2012 at 21:03

hello everyone its been a wee while  how is everyone ? been a bit of an up an down year had to drop out a few events(injury) done a lot of trail running headed for the hills a lot more fun missed out on the Glen Clova half for the first time in 9 years due to a balls up at work. and we found out in july that my dad has lung cancer so he was in hospital for a while and we though everything was fine but fluid has come back(long story) he is fine but we are all taking it a day at a time. as for running finished for the year will start again in january.   happy running folks

21/11/2012 at 21:09

Last "OH" post was by OH's other half Elspeth !

21/11/2012 at 22:00

I wondered

22/11/2012 at 06:09

Morning you lot

Fartlek done and dusted. Right catch up time

Morning Tri.

22/11/2012 at 06:29

morning BM

running to work again this morning. weather is to be horrid and I have to go late night shopping for bf's birthday at the weekend

hope everyone is well, welcome back remoh.

22/11/2012 at 06:39

Morning Tri

Pouring down here now !

Remoh: Good to see you back.

22/11/2012 at 08:26

Currently dry here but sky looking distinctly wierd!!! Heavy grey with streaks of red and pink.  Best get kids into school and 10-miler out the way quick!! Roseisle to Hopeman and back today I think.

22/11/2012 at 16:47

Feel like we have hardly had any daylight at all today .

Session on the elliptical this afternoon as I didnt fancy facing 'flood-apocalypse' outside . Should be better for a run tommorrow.

Welcome back Remoh.

Did anyone see the news today? Andrew Murray (the ultra runner, not the tennis player ) came first in the Antarctic Ice Marathon .

Talking of which, where has FFB disappeared to?

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