To run with music or without? Join the debate
are they indeed. So hard to prove either way as there are so many variables and only anecdotal evidence.
If you take a cold hard stare at it,
But having said that, everyone is differnent and some people who wear Iopds are less likely to have an incident because they are a "more aware" kind of person than someone else who is not earing an Ipod.
If you were organising an event looking at the health and saftey aspect or an insurer of an event what would you say?
If i am alone i go with some music but if i am with friends or in the gym i leave the music at home...
To Buney...SHOULD THE "iPLODDERS" BE BANNED?
Are you really sure about that? could be the next step. In this highly regulated society we live in could be that runners may have to eventually dish up some road tax...
Just off to download more toons......
Once the Ipods are banned then the GPS watches will be banned because less serious runners keep looking at them instead of where they're running.
Then we'll need to take a test to see if we're aware of the hazards when running - it will be a bit like the hazard perception test for new car drivers - only harder. This is because runners bump into each other and get injured so it needs to be stopped, those runners that don't bump into each other keep running and ruin their knees/hips etc so cost the NHS money.
Eventually we'll be allowed to run - but only on grass, for no more than 100 metres per week or 1 minute, while wearing full protection, knee pads, elbow pads, helmet, hi-vis jacket, 100SPF sun cream, kidney protector. If the run is on anything other than a perfectly flat surface we'll have to have St Johns there with us just in case we slip.
If you want to listen to music and run then 'Just do it' or is that some other company? If you want to talk and run that's fine - if you want more than a grunted answer from me don't ask after the first 100 yards.
I think runners without iPods should be banned from running - if we are talking about accidents in races. All the accidents I have seen, I saw loads in Great Manchester alone were caused by people who were not wearing iPods.
I had one person stop dead in the tracks right in front of me causing me to trip.
So I say ban all non-wearing iPod wearers, since I have seen only them ever cause accidents
I bet Scottish Mike wears purple underwear with yellow polka dots to protect himself from cancer.
I mean, the percentage of people wearing that type of underwear while being diagnosed is insignificant
Ah well if it's a hearing issue - should we ban deaf people too? then we can move onto thoes wearing sunglasses in order to get to runners with visual problems, tall people, short people etc.
A woman with a pushcair stopped in front of me in Morrisons the other day causing me to trip - let's ban babbies.
ban ban ban
I plug in to my mp3 when I run to work (about an hour's run). I have a playlist of funky, up-tempo stuff which is a decent distraction from the fact that I'm getting nearer to WORK with every step. However, I haven't found a pair of headphones that are comfy enough to wear for longer than that (I use a very retro-styled pair of Koss sportapros - OK they're not retro, they're old).
I don't use music if I'm running with anyone else because I think that's rude, or if I'm close to traffic because I think it's too risky, or if I'm running in the hills where I'd rather hear birdsong.
I did find it took a bit of getting used to running with music because you instantly lose the feedback of hearing your breathing and you have to be aware that there may be cyclists behind you who don't realise that you can't hear them, but I'm completely converted to it for my daily commute and it's really frustrating if I've forgotten to charge my battery and it fails half-way through.
I wouldn't dream of listening to music in a race, because it's a RACE whichever end of the pack you're in, but I don't much care if that's what works for other people. Running has to be the most inclusive sport there is; the fewer rules the better.
Imski - How did you know? Have you been going through my underwear drawer
My point being is that a large proportion of comments being made on this thread are because of a small percentage (and it is small) of certain runners.
Well if we are all to do the same, then I think non-wearing iPod users should be banned, simply because it is that type of runner where I have seen caused accidents/troubles.
It's always a pain when the guy/girl with the iPod cannot hear what is going on around them during a race, but it is also a pain in the harris when some idiot stops dead at a water station.
Being a club runner I marshal a number of events as well as run in them, and the number of people with no basic race etiquette is increasing all the time. If you can't hear the runners around you or instructions from the marshal because you've blocked your ears upll, don't race.
But let us not forget the numpty who stops level with the water station regardless of the hoards bearing down on him, who is struggling but still feels the need to run in the middle of the road, who insist on running across the street to hug their family and the 2 hour 1/2 marathon runner who still insists on starting at the front. Please all bugger off and do the fun run.
I don't think they should be banned as everyone is entitled to do/wear what one likes, we live in a society at the moment that seems to clamp down on the most unimportant things in life... OK rant over
Try the Chemical Brothers. Works a treat.
I think one of the things that's all too easily overlooked is that last time I checked, running was still a sport.If you want to wear a music player while training, that's all up to you and it's a personal preference thing. Hell, if you don't do it as a sport, you're not 'training' anyway and you just spend some time outdoors with or without music, good on you.
It's just in races that I can't comprehend why you'd even consider it, nevermind allowing it.
Running is a very inclusive sport, you can be utterly rubbish at it and still enter most races. That's beautiful, but why somehow people feel like they have some 'right' to bring their other hobbies like listening to music into a race escapes me completely.I reckon the only thing worse than 'nanny state' is libertarians inventing spurious 'rights' out of thin air.
Further I do think it's worrying when people can't stand to be with themselves for a little while without something to distract them. Seek help.
And don't get me started on the whole charity thing either. I'm happy to donate some money to charity every once and a while (I could/should probably do more, but who isn't in that boat?), but why road running has to be completely hijacked by charities escapes me as well.When my workmates leave for their 5-a-side game, I'm not asking them what charity they're playing for either, now am I?
<Goes off to have a nice cuppa... This ranting is thirsty work>
Imski, I think you raise some very good points and I agree wholeheartedly with when in a race you really shouldn't need/want to wear one. However, you will get people who staunchly believe they should be banned others that don't... for me it's purely a training aid.
On your charity observations, if it wasn't for the chance to raise money for worth while causes I would have given up running years ago but that is solely once a year in a half marathon. It would not cross my mind to badger people for money on say a 10k road race... but each to their own.
One things for sure though... this run with music or not will go on and on and on....
I usually run with music on training sessions but leave the iPod behind if I am taking part in a competitive event - you pay a lot of money to take part in running events and it would be a shame to miss out on the atmosphere of the crowds!
I have a one-hour mix selection on my iPod shuffle that I use when completing my regular route across the Bristol Downs. By using the same one-hour track, I can figure out if I am doing better or worse that usual as I hit certain checkpoints during certain songs - it is not very scientifically accurate, I'll admit, but it gives me a rough indication and, frankly, that is all I need.
In summary, I do prefer running with music during training sessions but I am yet to try it out in a major race as the only music I need on these events is the roar of the crowd!
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