Sound vs Silence

To run with music or without? Join the debate

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05/06/2008 at 22:54

If i am alone i go with some music but if i am with friends or in the gym i leave the music at home...

05/06/2008 at 23:00


05/06/2008 at 23:07
Its ok no need to shout not wearing anything in my ears !
05/06/2008 at 23:09
if the IPods/MP3 players are banned then people who like to wear them still have a choice whether to race or not ..nobody is thinking of banning people from racing ?
05/06/2008 at 23:16

Are you really sure about that? could be the next step. In this highly regulated society we live in could be that runners may have to eventually dish up some road tax...

Just off to download more toons......

06/06/2008 at 00:26

Once the Ipods are banned then the GPS watches will be banned because less serious runners keep looking at them instead of where they're running.

Then we'll need to take a test to see if we're aware of the hazards when running - it will be a bit like the hazard perception test for new car drivers - only harder.  This is because runners bump into each other and get injured so it needs to be stopped, those runners that don't bump into each other keep running and ruin their knees/hips etc so cost the NHS money. 

Eventually we'll be allowed to run - but only on grass, for no more than 100 metres per week or 1 minute, while wearing full protection, knee pads, elbow pads, helmet, hi-vis jacket, 100SPF sun cream, kidney protector.  If the run is on anything other than a perfectly flat surface we'll have to have St Johns there with us just in case we slip. 

If you want to listen to music and run then 'Just do it' or is that some other company?  If you want to talk and run that's fine - if you want more than a grunted answer from me don't ask after the first 100 yards.

Edited: 06/06/2008 at 00:30
06/06/2008 at 01:04

I think runners without iPods should be banned from running - if we are talking about accidents in races. All the accidents I have seen, I saw loads in Great Manchester alone were caused by people who were not wearing iPods.

I had one person stop dead in the tracks right in front of me causing me to trip.

So I say ban all non-wearing iPod wearers, since I have seen only them ever cause accidents

06/06/2008 at 08:03

I bet Scottish Mike wears purple underwear with yellow polka dots to protect himself from cancer.

I mean, the percentage of people wearing that type of underwear while being diagnosed is insignificant

06/06/2008 at 08:36

Ah well if it's a hearing issue - should we ban deaf people too? then we can move onto thoes wearing sunglasses in order to get to runners with visual problems, tall people, short people etc. 

A woman with a pushcair stopped in front of me in Morrisons the other day causing me to trip - let's ban babbies.

ban ban ban

06/06/2008 at 08:45

I plug in to my mp3 when I run to work (about an hour's run). I have a playlist of funky, up-tempo stuff which is a decent distraction from the fact that I'm getting nearer to WORK with every step. However, I haven't found a pair of headphones that are comfy enough to wear for longer than that (I use a very retro-styled pair of Koss sportapros - OK they're not retro, they're old).

I don't use music if I'm running with anyone else because I think that's rude, or if I'm close to traffic because I think it's too risky, or if I'm running in the hills where I'd rather hear birdsong.

I did find it took a bit of getting used to running with music because you instantly lose the feedback of hearing your breathing and you have to be aware that there may be cyclists behind you who don't realise that you can't hear them, but I'm completely converted to it for my daily commute and it's really frustrating if I've forgotten to charge my battery and it fails half-way through.

I wouldn't dream of listening to music in a race, because it's a RACE whichever end of the pack you're in, but I don't much care if that's what works for other people. Running has to be the most inclusive sport there is; the fewer rules the better.

Edited: 06/06/2008 at 08:46
06/06/2008 at 09:01

Imski - How did you know? Have you been going through my underwear drawer

My point being is that a large proportion of comments being made on this thread are because of a small percentage (and it is small) of certain runners.

Well if we are all to do the same, then I think non-wearing iPod users should be banned, simply because it is that type of runner where I have seen caused accidents/troubles.

06/06/2008 at 09:09

It's always a pain when the guy/girl with the iPod cannot hear what is going on around them during a race, but it is also a pain in the harris when some idiot stops dead at a water station.

Being a club runner I marshal a number of events as well as run in them, and the number of people with no basic race etiquette is increasing all the time. If you can't hear the runners around you or instructions from the marshal because you've blocked your ears upll, don't race.

 But let us not forget the numpty who stops level with the water station regardless of the hoards bearing down on him, who is struggling but still feels the need to run in the middle of the road, who insist on running across the street to hug their family and the 2 hour 1/2 marathon runner who still insists on starting at the front. Please all bugger off and do the fun run.

06/06/2008 at 09:16
When I'm training I more than not wear my ipod (if running with a mate it would be without).... in races I don't.... I did once but had my worst run ever. I actually find I run better without listening to music as I can actually listen to my body and know if I can push it more or I should slow up....

I don't think they should be banned as everyone is entitled to do/wear what one likes, we live in a society at the moment that seems to clamp down on the most unimportant things in life... OK rant over

06/06/2008 at 09:28
I definitely find running with music is much easier than running without. If i didn't use an mp3 player i may have quit from boredom ages ago. I used to be a cyclist and never needed musical accompaniment because you could travel greater distances and get out into the countryside, but i run in a built up area and the sound of the morning cars isn't all that inspiring. I've tried all types of music but find rock works best for me, especially Led Zeppelin, Muse, The Killers and The Who.
06/06/2008 at 09:29

Try the Chemical Brothers. Works a treat.

06/06/2008 at 09:33

I think one of the things that's all too easily overlooked is that last time I checked, running was still a sport.
If you want to wear a music player while training, that's all up to you and it's a personal preference thing.  Hell, if you don't do it as a sport, you're not 'training' anyway and you just spend some time outdoors with or without music, good on you.

It's just in races that I can't comprehend why you'd even consider it, nevermind allowing it.

Running is a very inclusive sport, you can be utterly rubbish at it and still enter most races. That's beautiful, but why somehow people feel like they have some 'right' to bring their other hobbies like listening to music into a race escapes me completely.
I reckon the only thing worse than 'nanny state' is libertarians inventing spurious 'rights' out of thin air.

Further I do think it's worrying when people can't stand to be with themselves for a little while without something to distract them. Seek help.

And don't get me started on the whole charity thing either. I'm happy to donate some money to charity every once and a while (I could/should probably do more, but who isn't in that boat?), but why road running has to be completely hijacked by charities escapes me as well.
When my workmates leave for their 5-a-side game, I'm not asking them what charity they're playing for either, now am I?

<Goes off to have a nice cuppa... This ranting is thirsty work>

06/06/2008 at 09:47

Imski, I think you raise some very good points and I agree wholeheartedly with when in a race you really shouldn't need/want to wear one. However, you will get people who staunchly believe they should be banned others that don't... for me it's purely a training aid.

On your charity observations, if it wasn't for the chance to raise money for worth while causes I would have given up running years ago but that is solely once a year in a half marathon. It would not cross my mind to badger people for money on say a 10k road race... but each to their own.

 One things for sure though... this run with music or not will go on and on and on....

06/06/2008 at 10:15

I usually run with music on training sessions but leave the iPod behind if I am taking part in a competitive event - you pay a lot of money to take part in running events and it would be a shame to miss out on the atmosphere of the crowds!

I have a one-hour mix selection on my iPod shuffle that I use when completing my regular route across the Bristol Downs. By using the same one-hour track, I can figure out if I am doing better or worse that usual as I hit certain checkpoints during certain songs - it is not very scientifically accurate, I'll admit, but it gives me a rough indication and, frankly, that is all I need.

In summary, I do prefer running with music during training sessions but I am yet to try it out in a major race as the only music I need on these events is the roar of the crowd!

06/06/2008 at 11:53

If you are listening to music rather than your body when you are running  how do you know if you are training or overtraining?

If music is affecting the tempo of your run then you are not in control of you training. The music is dictating the pace you run at then it is making you run too fast or too slow.

06/06/2008 at 11:54

agree, agree, agree with Imski.

I'm a middle to back of pack runner so in no way elitist, but still take my running and racing quite seriously. It's fabulous that running is so inclusive, otherwise I and many others probably wouldn't be involved, but first and formost it's still a sport - a chance to test your own abilities, challenge yourself, and put yourself beyond your comfort zone once in a while. For those reasons, I do think it's strange that people insist they couldn't possibly 'get through' a race without the help of music.

Training is fine, each to their own, and if people feel music is a helpful training device so be it. (Although I can't help but feel some people use it as a bit of a crutch). Personally, on the few occasions I tried to run with music, I found it more of a hinderance than a help.

MP3 players have only been in existance for a few years (maybe longer, I'm always way behind with technology!), so how did people 'get through' their runs before then?

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