To run with music or without? Join the debate
I've been reading this thread and as a "new" runner had not realised that this i-pod thing was such a big deal!
The reason I run is to try and get fitter but I really enjoy the time to chill out and concentrate on my own pace, effort, breathing and can think of nothing if I want. Great! But sometimes I think of work related problems and come up with ideas, or I think of stuff on the home front, and again come up with ideas. Maybe that's why I've never needed to use an i-pod?
What I enjoy about running is the simplicity of it. I have never used an i-pod for running but am now tempted to try it out! If I do, I'll let you know.
Each to their own.
sorry but what difference does it make if its a lifestyle choice???? or not, if its dangerous its dangerous. sorry but I dont think it is dangerous, to use headphones, were are becoming an obsessive compulsive world on health and safety
for crying out loud, what next helmets and knee pads, sure thats been said already, but the basics of it is if you have loss of hearing, and or wear headphones you also have loss of hearing, so you cant single one out to the other, madness, banning headphones on lifetstyle choice, also like banning headphones as people are being sociable in races
you want to be sociable go do a fellrace, everyone talks to everyone, and why is it people want to run about a race talking to other people? thats one of the reasons ~I wear my headphones, I dont want to speak I want to do a pb!!!!! I really didnt want to have an argument but your reasons are wrong, if you ban on health and safety yes ok, but not lifestyle choice
I am going to quit this forum before I quit running full stop.
None of the people know me or how I prefer to run, but they have already came to the opinion that I am inconsiderate of other people around me.
I started to run for nothing more than myself. I don't enter runs to win (and I never will). I enter them to challenge myself. I am sorry for the small number of people out there who think I don't take it seriously. But hey ho, that's life.
As a kid I never did sport, and I am wishing I never started now as it's bringing back a load of awful memories.
Thanks for ruining it!!!
it sounds to me like this is a promo site for Nike sponsored by runner's world.
are you going to mention other music web sites and the value of their methods? or is this just another advertising venue for Nike?
Well said POOKY and more power to you. This is what running is all about - freedom!!! There's always a group of mean spirited people trying to impose their views on everyone else. So many people blame everything around them for their own limitation instead of taking responsibility themselves.
I run because I chose to, I listen to music because I chose to and if I chose to do both at the same time I will and no one has the right to stop me unless they can come up with scientific evidence that it's dangerous to other runners.
There's alway going to be idiots out there who are a danger to others, some wear iPods and some don't.
What I do tend to find is that certain music when running (depending on the tempo) can often be misguiding, as for some reason my pace quickens to what it normally would be, therefore disrupting the whole thing towards the end as I dont realise Ive been running faster than normal. I have my pace if I go any quicker than that without a steady build up, it cant be that good.
Also living in London, where traffic is very considerate of us runners! I have decided to go no music when road running, as I reallly do have to watch out for twats on the road. If I'm canal or off road running then I do take music but am careful to select certain music that perhaps reflects my running pace.
Any case this week I been very neglectful or my running - too much work on - so will be back to it next week.
Muzzy who seems to have a large chip on their shoulder about being deaf. In the Deaf Runners thread he/she seems to gleefully post that she is being argumentative.
We all take decisions based on our perceived risk of what we are doing, and it is down to personal choice.
Sorry you feel like that Scotish Mike . Don't let other people spoil your enjoyment.
As a track and cross country based athlete I don't race much on the road and haven't realy experienced much in the way of the "Ipod stagger" and didn't realy give it much, if any thought.
I first came across an Ipod thread on this forum a few months ago when I wanted some advice on headphones for running in the gym. I read a few posts and couldn't believe that people were saying that their hearing was not impeded by having an Ipod on during a race, durrrrrrrr.
I have gone from being a,"not having an opinion" to being firmly against Ipods in races, based, not on experience but on the opinions of Ipod wearers who believe that having headphones with music does not impede awareness or hearing.
when in training do what you like, but in races guys .................. come on.
On a tangent realy but, it was on another Ipod thread I learnt that some people take their phones with them when they race, wtf is that all about
I initially started running without music and was quiet happy with that as I didn't know anything else. I loved listening to the birds, sound of the wind rustling trees, cows etc.
Then along came Ipods and I got into the craze. 3 ipods later I finally settled with Ipod shuffle and thought I'd never be able to run without an Ipod again. Infact the few times I ran with friends I actually became quite irritated that I didn't have my Ipod (sounds sad doesn't it.)
I haven't worn Ipods in marathons and races and managed fine but a part of me really wanted my music. My running had become synonymous with listening to music. I also didn't like my tempo would change according to which song I was listening to or how I'd get annoyed at a song I no longer liked or didn't fancy hearing that day.
BTW I never one to run with loud music blaring, I could always hear cars, bicycles etc.
But finally oneday I decided to go running without my ipod and it wasn't nearly so bad as I thought it'd be. Hearing nature once more was amazing and I felt much more intune with my surroundings.
I loved it and I haven't gone back to my ipod since.
My shuffle looks rather sad on desk these days untouched for ages!!!
Just come back from a long run without my ipod (partly bad planning - partly because of this nutter around Glasgow at the moment) and I MISSED it.
I think I equate running with dancing- when I run with my music it feels almost like a dance - and that is one of the reasons I like it so much.
I do think in a short race - you don't really need it but I will use one if its a quiet race. But for a half marathon or a marathon where folks like me take so very long to finish - it just really helps with the boredom.
And honestly if someone comes on and then says that i shouldn't bother running marathons if I get a little bit bored now and again - I will seriously scream. Can some folks not just live and let live. Some of us like music some prefer not to have it. It doesn't make you a bad person if you prefer to run with music and it also doesn't make you a bad runner. Taking the moral highground over something like this is just a tad ott.
I am sure I read somewhere in this discussion the sentiment that if you need music to run then you shouldnt bother running !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean, honestly.
I've really tried hard to stay out of this debate because there (for some odd reason) some very very strong views on the subject. But i've weakened, here goes.
There are some posts that seem to be trying to belittle, bully and force a standpoint onto runners who don't agree in one way or another. This might not be intentional but perception is reality.
For instance, you might not like or agree with something.......fair enough. But WHY should i subscribe to that when i have another equal and valid opinion.
A couple of points to clear up a few things from my personal standpoint.......1. I have an opinion although it's not important what it is because that's all it is, an opinion.
2. If the rules say no pods then that's it....no pods, respect the rules, no debate.
3. Most of us are recreational runners, we're not trying to sort out Mugabes regime or solve the global economic crisis, (300 posts on ipods in this thread alone!!!). Is this normal ???
4. In life we encourage a live and let live attitude, i think we need to bear this in mind guys, it works.
Sits back and waits for a hammering !!!
Stay healthy all and enjoy your running (BTW i'm running the Syoke 1/2 tomorrow without a pod)
Its clearly a preference issue isnt it? I mean athletes probably run without music so they can hear there breathing??? I like running with music (off road) as it somehow breaks the monotony of it. When I'm doing half mar. then I run without music as I do need to focus on breathing and rhythm otherwise I find I hammer it at the beginning then am knackered by the end.
Also I have learnt to indentify when my exhaustion sets in, by noting how I react to people in my way - if I'm good then they dont bother me, If I'm knackered then I hear myself muttering to myself something along the lines of " asshole" or "twat"
The other day, this guy saw me and decided to pull out of a junction right in front of me, almost staged! He then, one day a guy didnt indicate as I looked for his blinkers, but then cut right on front of me going a good 30mph he literally missed me by hairline....
Well I really dont have anything to add to this debate.
ABAB, good points well made
but it has left me with one of those unanswerable questions .................................
If Mugabe were a runner do you see him as an
Mugabe wouldn't need to run a race! He'd simply claim victory by disqualifying everyone else as they couldn't run because his thugs had beeten them up. He'd also steel their iPods and blame the British government for it.
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