Sound vs Silence

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04/06/2008 at 14:14

With regards to number 3

Under interantional rules outside influences (including personal music systems) are not allowed in races, not even a GPS.

I might be being a bit of a pedant here as I know that doesn't effect most of us

04/06/2008 at 14:20

how come crowd support doesn't come under outside influences?  To me this doesn't make any sense - this is surely the greatest influence of all, particularly in international races? 

Maybe the crowd should be made to sit in silence, or possibly listen to the commentry on their radio

Interesting point though! 

04/06/2008 at 14:22

The last thing you need is to be coming down the home staraight aiming to duck under 2 hours for a I/2 marathon and getting DQD because your 4 yearold shouted "Go on Daddy"

04/06/2008 at 14:52
Just because some one is wearing an earpeice it doesn't mean that they are listening to anything. I find it hard to see my watch when running which is why I tend to rely on pressing a button that speaks to me giving my mileage, pace and time the musiv is a bonus and I don't always use it as I have said before. If ipods are banned at a race this would put me at a disadvantage as I would find it harder to pace myself. I am not compelling others to listen to music so why should I have my freedom of choice restricted because others wish to impose their preference?
cougie    pirate
04/06/2008 at 15:09
Maybe we should have a test at races. Get a marshall to shout out to the ipod runners, if the runner can hear the question, then they are fine, if not - they get their reward.

The question could be - 'do you want to avoid the crocodile pit ?'

Anyone with a safe volume will be fine, but those who are oblivious to marshalls, and ignoring the rules will be penalised. Maybe by losing a leg.
04/06/2008 at 16:03

on the point of hearing marshalls, 80% off communication is body lanuage and are hard of hearing people allowed run? non english speakers?  dyslexics (like myself,  i struggle with left and right) or even people running very fast. 

i have been in and marshalled races that have needed verbal instructions i.e first left, second right ect.  This is not satictifactory and is a sign of a poorly oganised and a potentially very dangerous race.

04/06/2008 at 16:04

sorry 80% is non verbal

04/06/2008 at 16:14
what implications for the future. Currently we are listening to music whilst we are running, in the future we could be in debating running whilst people are watching tiny TVs.....more in the future we could be in a virutal world not just listening to music but watching it live all whilst running our local 10K.....the mind boggles .
04/06/2008 at 16:37
If someone could run a 10k whilst watching a tiny TV I'd be really impressed!
04/06/2008 at 16:49

A race in which marshals give verbal instructions is poorly organized and dangerous?

That can't be right.

04/06/2008 at 16:59

Split decision here as to whether sound is better than silence. 

Yes....Love to run with music when running on my on own. Keeps me company and takes away the boredom.

 No....When running in a group, think music is so anti-social.  Seams to defeat the object of running in a group in the first place.

04/06/2008 at 17:00

Surely the marshalls stand there and point and gesture too? They're not statues!

 Having said that, to play devil's advocate, I sometimes find the gestures too vague (normally when my brain's shut down in the last few miles) and rely on their spoken communication...So it's obviously a good job I don't race with an ipod

I agree with Lil Miss Squirrel - We should bring back ghetto blasters and combine running and weights!

This argument is silly because it has too many variables and I'm highly sceptical about how Nike and RW can glean any 'facts' from this discussion....But it passes the time when I should be working  

04/06/2008 at 17:08
I made the point earlier that I thought music should be banned at races because I'd travelled all the way to stand in the rain to support my friend and she didn't hear me because of her iPod .  But that was a 10K race.  I take John's point above that it's a whole other story when running long distances in preparation for a marathon or during the marathon itself.  Respect to those runners who run that distance without the distraction of music, but a mile is a mile is a mile - I admire everyone who runs 26 miles, with or without music.
04/06/2008 at 17:35
Can't do it. I have tried but I like to hear what's around me and earphones just really irritate me when I'm running. Anyway I could never hear the gasps of admiration as I speed past people at my breathtakingly sedate plod.!!
04/06/2008 at 20:21

I'm a relatively newby runner and I started out with an ipod shuffle, I thought I'd need the music to stop me getting bored but having ran yesterday without it I actually ran much better and felt in control.  When I have my ipod on I can't hear my breathing (Which was the main reason I wore one initially because listening to me panting put me off) and the speed of the song made me run faster or slower. As an inexperienced runner I fthink this made me go too fast too soon and hence I was getting really tired too quick and feeling despondant because I felt so out of breath all the time.

My run yesterday without the music was more controlled and to my own rhythm which resulted in me running non-stop for 45 minutes over 5½ miles.

I think I'll use the ipod for shorter faster training sessions and go au naturel for the distances from now on........also you can't hear the birds with Madonna in your ears!!!

04/06/2008 at 20:43
I like the sound of cougies idea. Does croc wrestling count as very cross Training?
04/06/2008 at 20:53
Do pilots wear Ipods when they fly planes?
04/06/2008 at 20:55
Only if they are flying into a headwind!
Edited: 04/06/2008 at 20:56
04/06/2008 at 23:29

HELLO

Music definatly , but it depends who you listen to, as my name suggests i am a musician and i was professional for a few years. Any good music with a straight 4/4 beat (eg) alot of steriophonics or manic street preachers generaly rock music and keep your pace right by making sure your right leg hits the ground every time the snare drum is played. Stay away from dance music its too hard to run to caus you cant keep in time to it plus you will probably have a headache by the time you stop running , also stay away from anything with a 3/4 beat this is a waltz so unless you want to dance down the road or have a very peculiar run its no use.

To help the uneducated musicians and maby help with there running a 4/4 beat is beat that has 4 beats to a bar ie (1234) (1234) listen to the drums and if you are counting right the snare will come in on the 4 of the beat this is when your leg should be making contact with the ground. I can recommend a great song to listen to its "Times like these by the Foo Fighters " . Hope this helps a bit just remember it has to be some form of rock music its yer only man and it helps keep you going and remember if you need to stop for a breather dont do it till the song stops that way i find i am always pushing myself that little bit extra

Dustboy    pirate
04/06/2008 at 23:48

And avoid "Golden Brown" by the Sranglers. It's in 7/8 I understand. LOL!

GR. V interesting post, I notice you don't mention bpm though. Often wondered about a playlist that greadually increased bpm to aid a fast time? Surely the 120bpm dance music "standard" must have some foundation in heart rate whilst boogying on down? Just a thought. 

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