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03/03/2014 at 08:55
literatin wrote (see)

But in the interests of full disclosure I should point out that it was 1:24 and 52 seconds. I can't quite bring myself to present this as just 1:24. But am still very happy about it. 

I ran 1:24:57 at Deal so you are 5 seconds faster than me. I'm aiming for 2:50 so

sub 3, sub 3, sub 3

In all seriousness, it will actually be quite close. Double plus 10 is a hard conversion but not impossible. In 2011 I did 82:15 and 2:57:09 (double plus 12:39) and then a year later I did 79:34 and 2:50:28 (double plus 11:20).

A lot will depend on factors only you can really tell and know such as how well Reading really reflects a true raced performance versus a half done in the middle of marathon training and also how well you have covered the long run side of things.

carterusm wrote (see)

Samir - good effort yesterday, well done. Onwards and upwards......

One out of two. It wasn't a good effort yesterday at all. I'll admit that Samir was between a rock and a hard place so if he didn't run he was going to get a lot of stick and if he did run the same, but do you honestly think that shooting out of the blocks and leading the race and then limping home is a good effort? I don't.

Yesterday was not about effort. It was about a show and we got a show. I'm writing the screen play soon so if anyone has some money and fancies backing a film, who knows, we may be sipping cocktails in the Vanity Fair party this time next year. The outcome is probably best for all. 799 people crossed the finish line before Samir so a lot of people have 1-0 head to head wins now (if Samie Haddad is corrected to Samir Haddad in po10) and there are another 101 with faster chip times which shows how crowded the start is at Reading: the guy who finished in 799th place with 1:30:17 gun was chipped at 1:26:59.

As for onwards and upwards, we shall see. I doubt that Samir will just fade into club obscurity and do the sensible thing. Team GB: the thread that just keeps on giving.

03/03/2014 at 09:00
Scott Edgington wrote (see)
Of course a lot of you fail to see what a joke this has become ...

Scott, this is why most of us are here!

03/03/2014 at 09:01

There's no doubt in my mind from that video of Samir passing the mile marker that he was carrying an injury.  A guy clearly capable of decent times (as demonstrated by his previous 80 mins, and good 5k and 10k times) shouldn't be running that lopsided as TT puts it!  He looked in pain, which could have been down to too fast a start, but he definitely looks injured to me.

Bit of a "daft wee laddie" as he would get called up my way for all the big, unrealistic claims, failing to listen to the more experienced runners and for running with the injury.

But no more than that - and he is just 19.  I'm glad that all the daft things I said or did when I was 19 are not saved on the internet somewhere.

Samir, chin up and keep at it.  Get the injury sorted out and then start listening to people who clearly know what they're speaking about!

03/03/2014 at 09:16

Calum - I agree.  I also want to point out that he looked to be purposefully running well out of the way of all the people running past him, to not get in their way.

Also (shock horror!), I agree with DF3/Mr I.  Samir is undoubtedly having a bit of a laugh in some of his posts (something Scott doesn't seem to appreciate).  I haven't met Samir, but I think it was clear from his posts that his heart is in the right place and he obviously has some talent.

03/03/2014 at 09:39

scott , in a weekend where you went sub 16 for 5k and Samir had a bit of a stinker i would have thought the classy thing to do would be ease off on the keyboard rather than some cut price detective pouring over all his splits/training/results and picking away at him.  you seem to think all those that are not giving him a hard time are beliefer's that need to see the error of our ways,  we are not.   Let the lad have outlandish goals as race performances will out the truth.  

03/03/2014 at 09:39

ffs - slated, not slatted. Brain is not firing this morning!

Calum - good point; I did notice that too on the video that he at least had the sense to run off to the side.

03/03/2014 at 09:40

Oh, and I wouldn't pay a massive amount of attention to the Reading 5k splits - either the mile markers were out or the mats were (or both which on past experience is usually the case).

03/03/2014 at 09:57

The halfway marker and giant clock were definitely in totally the wrong place.

03/03/2014 at 10:11

Yeah, if the halfway marker was right then I ran a negative split.  And I can quite categorically state that that was not the case.

03/03/2014 at 10:14

Lit - At least we won't have that problem at London.  The halfway marker's always bang on there.  It was decided in the pub last night that I'll be going through in 1:28:45.  Hope that's OK with you. 

Scott - There was also talk of Eastleigh.  I'm eyeing up a return to racing as my foot injury has improved, although the priority is the Southern road relays the week after Eastleigh.  If I'm feeling really bullish I might do both, but don't count on it. Not sure I'd be firing on all cylinders anyway, so I think you'd have me on recent form.

03/03/2014 at 10:16
If anyone ran a negative split id be surprised.the last three miles were windy as anything
03/03/2014 at 10:27

PP, come on, get on the sub-33 train at Eastleigh.

Although, given yesterday, that may be ridiculously ambitious for me too.

03/03/2014 at 10:46

Out interest SG, what was the 'big M' up to yesterday? noticed he wasn't in his usual position. Leading you.

By example of course

03/03/2014 at 10:49

So is it definitely decided that Literatin is going for a sub 3 hour then?


03/03/2014 at 10:51
Dachs wrote (see)



  I think that might be a tad beyond me at the moment, but if you're up for it I can recommend tagging along with my mate Stuart.  He's running well at the moment (top 200 at the national xc) and 32:59 is his next big target. He's pretty good at pacing too.

03/03/2014 at 10:53
The real Mr I wrote (see)

So is it definitely decided that Literatin is going for a sub 3 hour then?


Nah, Philpub just has this fantasy of making me spend 2 hours 59 minutes staring at his tiny red shorts.

03/03/2014 at 10:55

Lit: they're orange.  You won't forget them in a hurry.  And I'd say if you ran the 1.24.52 off only a modest taper then you are there or thereabouts for sub-3

03/03/2014 at 10:57
literatin wrote (see)
The real Mr I wrote (see)

So is it definitely decided that Literatin is going for a sub 3 hour then?


Nah, Philpub just has this fantasy of making me spend 2 hours 59 minutes staring at his tiny red shorts.

I spose Phil reckons if you've got it, you might as well flaunt it!


03/03/2014 at 11:01

Ah, the photos are out.  Which leads me to reveal which of the pre-race bets have landed on a day where the bookies had a field day.


over 1h30 - 8/1 (big price, but no takers)

Dachs (1/7) v Samir (4/1)
Stevie G (5/6) v Samir (5/6)
Dachs' Dad (10/1) v Samir (1/20)
Anuradha Cooray (no offer) v Samir (500/1) - can't believe nobody took this on as Samir shows the Olympian a thing or two about gritting it out.

Samir to lead at any point of the race (3/1) - won (see photo)
Samir to be leading at 1 mile (40/1) - lost
Samir to run mile 1 at sub 4h30 (25/1) - lost
Forgotten Chip (evens) - lost
Overslept/lost on way/late for start/car breakdown (3/1) - lost
First fancy dress to beat Samir (12/1) - won 

Samir to walk at any point (4/1) - won
Samir to vomit at any point (2/1) - won (presumably as he went to McDonalds)
Samir to be chicked (1/8) - won
Samir to pull home economics teacher en route (150/1) - lost (presumably)
Samir to be selected by Team GB for world half marathon champs (1000/1) - lost

Edited: 03/03/2014 at 11:03
03/03/2014 at 11:03

Any discussion of race-day clothing colour is merely speculation at this stage, and will not be confirmed until such time as coordination with the sponsor's requirements can be assessed.

(So, red, orange, or green basically...)

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