whoops, of course it's you, I feel a right clown!!
Never done Cliveden to be honest, is a race that has cult following sells out really early, but has been cancelled the last 2 years due to the weather. Outside chance of doing the Aylesbury 5k on Boxing day, that's a race of such standard that Ben might be pushed out of the top 2 or 3. Low 15s have won it before... I did it once in about 2008, and came 25th in 17.57 or so i think.
I'll try and make it to the club a couple of times, definitely for the next social and the predictor event.
Tadley is the most varied course...a few years ago on a particularly cold day they took the decision to switch the course around, so now it runs a lot better as there's no bottlenecks.
Basically first half, lush forest, mildly undulating
2nd half, tough, 2 or 3 ( i can never remember) stream crosses, with the do you leap it, or do you step in and wade through condundrum, then a mile or so of hilly boggy muddy ploughed fields. The hills are nothing compared to handy cross or even today, but the sheer boggy nature makes it a right faff.
Then a half mile to end on the path you start on, where you keep thinking the next turn will be the finish. It's probably one of the biggest "hallucinating" points of the series, as you're so sure someone is right on your shoulder!
reading all that...can't wait!!