The Wales Marathon 2014

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13/01/2014 at 13:18

Any one else signed up for this or run it previously ?

13/01/2014 at 14:09

Probably not this year, although I would really like to run this one again now that I am a bit more clued up . I ran it in 2012 as my first marathon and really enjoyed everything about the weekend, even the steep hills. I particularly liked seeing the Road Warning sign - 12% gradient  - on the first climb. It nicely set the expectations for the rest of the run

13/01/2014 at 18:59

wow it sounds like a real tough one!! Ive seen the profile and it looks bad, but 12% gradient really paints a picture!! Thanks , it helps to know kind of thing for my training.

If all goes well this will be marathon number five for me, following on from Edinburgh, London, Preston Guild Marathon and Dublin. If you want to know about any of them feel free to ask or see my blog 'About' page. Saying that the Preston one wont be run again for another twenty years, plenty of prep time mind!!


08/04/2014 at 12:50
08/04/2014 at 13:01

Ha ! - that brought back some memories from the 2012 race. I do think he set off a little too fast round the town. I took it steady from the off and let quite a few charge off into the distance, only to pass them on the hills. I would say it was my first and best race, and definitelty my favorite!

08/04/2014 at 21:17

Yes I'd agree I was surprised at the six minute mile start esp as he didn't seem to have taken much fuel on board. But I guess you learn more when it goes wrong than when you get a PB. I hope to never to go through what he did mind!!


The race and the area does seem well worth it

01/06/2014 at 18:35

Hi All - Hoping you're all on good form - I'm going for this one - Just ran Liverpool last Sunday and hit the training trail again today; 12 miler and everything stll works! Hills aren't a problem to me - done Buxton half and a fell run called Foel Fras in times past. Not too obvious from the published map and profile how steep and long the main rises are? Even after reading Mr chuck-ups odyssey not really any wiser. Can anyone shed any light?

Currently thinking of driving down from The Wirral on the day - where would be good to park up so I can swiftly get to the start activity - I don't mind coughing up a few quid for convenience.

02/06/2014 at 07:22

Hi lowrez , training not going great for me been suffering with a calf strain these past five weeks. But have completed 100% of my last two training weeks so fingers crossed.


Don't know the area but have found this more detailed course profile :

02/06/2014 at 10:03

SJ - You need that calf nicely settled for an undualting route like this - has it been perfect these last 2 weeks? I hope so.

That link is brilliant thanks - bit of a rollercoaster from 25k onwards!

In two minds about booking accommodation; slowly warming to the idea; a 4hr drive commencing 4am is probably not good prep for a marathon, Then again I never sleep that well the night before a big day, even at home.

I've not had Accellerade before; is that a drink or are they handing out gels at those points?  

02/06/2014 at 13:02

Dont know anything about Accellerade either, where have you seen that ?

Calf isnt brilliant but its a lot a better , when it started i couldnt walk without pain , not i can run with some discomfort and occasional pain. So its a big improvement and there is six weeks to go so fingers crossed i will be 100% by then.

Its going to be a very tough race indeed. Ive been keeping big hills to my midweek runs but now we are getting closer to the big day i'm starting to throw them into the long runs too.

I always like to stay over for a marathon, less to stress about on the day and more time to prepare.

02/06/2014 at 13:03

the website lists GU gels as a sponsor....well the page about the new medal design does any way.


02/06/2014 at 21:31

Its on the route map here: along with Princes Gate water. Maybe they've forgotten to drop it if they've switched sponsors; no mention of either in their "Partners" blurb. I'm not too bothered as I've found over time that if I "carb up" properly in prep and guzzle something I know before kick-off then a few of my own trusted penny chews and on-course water will be enough to power me round. 

Taper isn't far off so your calf will love that; hope it settles down completely.

Course certainly will be the toughest I've run for a while. Did you see the video: not too much indication of how tough but a nice watch. Thought there would be some times on it. I'll look a bit further to see what we can expect. Does look a nice place to stop over!

02/06/2014 at 22:07

Cool thanks for the video. Will check it out. 

It's going to be the hardest marathon I've ever done! I'm in a race preparation period now, so thinking of throwing in all the tough hills I can. Also will be doing plenty of walking esp. up and down stairs. 

I've got a half in three weeks then as you say it's taper time and everything is about the race day. 

03/06/2014 at 10:39

I ran the Coniston trail marathon a couple of years ago which elevation wise looks on a par with this, that was, unexpectedly for me, over some pretty tough terrain which really brought my time right down. Good to know this one is all on road. I have a few hills in my training runs, nothing as big as 250ft over the course of a mile though - hope your stairs are long!

Where is your half? Was going to say hope it's Buxton but I think that was run a couple of weeks ago. 

03/06/2014 at 13:03

Coniston, i bet that was nice but tough.

I am in South Ribble Lancashire and there are plenty of hills i can through it, but have mostly avoided them on the very long runs to improve my endurance.

Stairs wise, im on the second floor at work, but its an old 1920s hotel so its four flights of stairs to get to the second floor, tall ceilings and all that. Plus i have been walking into work through a park and to get to the building, ive been using some stairs in the park rather than a long slope which most people use. So i am hoping little things like those will help.

My half is the freckleton hm, its the 50th one, so i couldnt miss it.

Based on the terrain of this marathon i am thinking, despite increasing my mileage equaling my PB might be an achievement.

Have you been following a training plan ?


03/06/2014 at 22:06

Very scenic; official name is the Lakeland Trail Marathon; it had been a very wet spring/summer though and nearly all the paths were sodden or in fact small streams. Plus I was wearing "city runner gear" versus the secialist clobber the fell runner types had; whilst they cavorted like gazelles across the terrain I stumbled and tripped as my ankles kept turning over and slid or sank along. It didn't get my spirits down though, just taught me a lesson about being properly prepared; put me off doing another trail marathon for a good while though!

Ribble! I went to Preston Poly for 3 years so know the area a bit; in fact I think a bloke at work is running Freckleton; I will double check with him. How is that for hills? I had a look at the website but can't see an elevation profile.

Your work building sounds great; I'm on the ground floor but our office is 3 floors and I always take the stairs too. I'm a 20 minute drive away from work a bit too far to walk - 16 miles I think - I have looked at a running route off and on but don't fancy the hassle involved. I do like morning running but lately have taken to running after work. I find walking very theraputic; don't think it adds much to stamina but it certainly helps keep you supple.

I have always used Hal Higdon's schedules, nowadays a lot of info is locked away in his website and you have to fork out cash to get at it; I have most of it saved from a few years back when he was publishing quite a bit for free. I am currently following plan "Advanced 2" which is the only one with speedwork sessions; these next 2 weeks though I am changing things a bit because I'm running a 10k a week on Sunday. On Tuesdays I would normally do some 800m repeats but today I did 8x400m with 200m recovery inbetween each. Are you following a specific plan?

A pb at Tenby would be quite an achievement! The hills don't put me off at all, but I know they will slow me down. My form is improving quite well this year so I too am hoping for a good time despite the hills. What is your pb? Mine is 3:47 set in Belfast 2 years ago; that has quite a big steady climb in it, so not really a record breaking course. 


04/06/2014 at 07:53

My PB is 3:31 but if I equal that. I'll be pleased it's going to be a tough day. I have have tried harder for this one in preparation doing the Advanced Marathoning up to 70 miles per week programme, it features quite a bit of speed work but no specific hill work instead it just says plan your routes based on the race course......Which isn't much help for wales!. In some ways it is annoying that the extra work probably won't get me a pb but well you've seen the route getting round will be an achievement lol

Freckleton features a long gradual incline at one point but other than that it's not too challenging but it's the big one round here so couldn't miss the 50th birthday run. 

I've heard a lot about Hal recently, seems more and more runners are giving his stuff a go.

My building is a nice one to work at and just over 2 miles from were so I walk in , through a woods then along a river then finally through the park it backs onto. Best commute I've ever had lol sadly they are going to close the building and sell it off and we're moving to a grey block with views of a road...... ah well, it's still walkable mind.

That lake land marathon sounds really nice if not challenging. I probably would of done the same thing you did and run it in road shoes. But sometimes it's good when it goes wrong as you learn a little. 

04/06/2014 at 10:06

P.s i mapped out the route in RunningAhead as i think its a little better than mapmyrun :

It certainly gives a clear indication of what we are to face!!





04/06/2014 at 13:08

OMG! There are no flat pieces at all on that profile . I've been looking at the one on their website and thinking it would be plain sailing after the first big rise for a while.

3:31 is a marvellous time; depending on your age you might qualify to run in Boston with that - I'm trying to achive 3:30 to get there. What marathon did you achieve that on?

Shame about your office, but good that you still get to walk; pre 1998 I walked to work as well, but then I moved to the Wirral and have driven ever since, I would probably be a lot lighter if I walked a couple of miles twice per day, it all counts. Currently I am mangaing to drop a couple of pounds per week by eating sensibly, absolutely no "rubbish" in my diet like cakes, chocolate, crisps etc, its working well. If I can lose a stone or 2 then I will be covering the ground faster I am sure. 

Is your training schedule available on line? I was doing similar with Hal's "Advanced 1"; I was shocked at the drop in mileage on "Advanced 2" but its because he substitutes 2 mid to long runs with a combination of speed, hill and tempo sessions. Have to admit I can't really figure tempo sessions so I only tend to do hill and 800m repeats - its working well though.

My hamstring is complaining a bit after those repeats yesterday but I'm doing well forcing it back into some flexibility with a tennis ball, amazing how you can work out the tightness - a lot cheaper than a physio. Need to get a 5 miler in tonight.

What's on your schedule for today? Are you tapering down a bit prior to the half (bloke at work has never heard of it by the way; sounded like something he would say though; he has the accent to match)?

04/06/2014 at 13:35

lol i guess between all three profiles we should have a good idea of what we are facing. Good job we didn't just go off the official one, as compared to the mapmyrun and RunnignAhead profiles that one looks fairly easy.

Thanks, i got my 3:31 in Dublin following the Advanced Marathoning up to 55 miles per week programme.Its a great book, worth buying and it explains all the different types of running like tempo runs, provides several training programmes and gives tips on injury and pacing etc etc .

I get tight hamstrings, so i bought a roller and it seems to help and like your tennis ball, cheaper than physio.

Ha ha Freckleton is big (kind of), it made it in the Runners World top 20 races of the past 20 years and is the UKs oldest running (excuse the pun) half marathon. I am just going to fit into my training rather than taper off. I figure the marathon is the main event, so it wont matter too much if it goes wrong.

That said, on the week of the race i am going to re-jig things and have all the longer runs at the start of the week , so i guess thats a sort of taper......

Doing 15 miles today. What about you ?



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