A little more information about this...
As most of you are aware by now, we have made a few changes to the runnersworld.co.uk forum last week. The main change is that we’ve appointed four user moderators to help assist the Runner’s World web team moderators.
Our four moderators are Jeepers, M...eldy, seren nos and Intermanaut. We’ll also be giving them badges, so you can all tell who the moderators are.
There have been lots of discussions about the decision to adopt this new system of user moderation over the last week, so I thought I’d take the time to clarify a few points.
Firstly, the decision to adopt user moderation. This was taken as there has been increasing levels of spam on the forum over the last year. Even though we have applied new filters, spammers will always find a way to get through and this makes the forum far less user-friendly.
Members frequently send us alerts over weekends and evenings and there can be a lag time in dealing with these alerts. So we thought it would be a sensible idea if a small group of forumites could help in removing obvious spam to save it blocking up the forum.
Many of you have repeatedly asked us to introduce this measure over the last few years, so we thought it would be worth seeing if it worked.
Our new user moderators can hide posts by spammers and we’ve asked them to keep a record of all the spam they hide. In short, they are helping to keep the forum running smoothly and we are really grateful for their help. We hope you can get behind them and support them in their efforts.
There are also limitations in what the user moderators can do. They shouldn’t delete or change the title of threads, nor should they intervene in disputes. If you have any questions about the user moderator role, please don’t hesitate to email me at email@example.com.
As before, the Runner’s World web team will still moderate the forums during working hours, so keep sending us your alerts. Also, if there are any more serious issues, please send us an alert rather than going to the user moderators for help.
Finally, I thought it might be worth explaining a little about how we chose moderators. Over the last two years, these four members chosen have consistently sent runnersworld.co.uk moderation alerts and kept us informed about spam and technical problems. We thought we would reward them for their help and loyalty to the site by offering them this role.
They are by no means the only members who have sent us moderation alerts over the years – and we are extremely grateful for all of your help. However, we’re sure you can understand that it’s important to have quite a small team who we know well during this trial.
The fairest way to appoint user moderators seemed to be to pick some of the members who had most consistently and enthusiastically sent alerts in recent years. Of course if you have any more questions, please don’t hesitate to post in the thread below and I’ll try to get back to you throughout the week.
The fariest way would have been something totally different. Choosing people that haven't been involved in disputes and arguments for a start.
So if you complain the most you get 'rewarded'
Dominique - a couple of points that maybe you could clarify;
1. When you say the chosen mods made the most moderation reports, do you mean spam alerts or general moderation of contenious threads/posts too?2. Did you look at the user profile and posting history, or just the number of mod alerts?3. You haven't mentioned anything in your post about what steps Rodale are taking to fix this long term. Is there a plan or is it now a case of sitting back and letting the prefects get on with it?I feel that the answer to these points, others may have more, can put things in very different lights either way.
Oh, point 4. You say:
"There are also limitations in what the user moderators can do. They shouldn’t delete or change the title of threads, nor should they intervene in disputes."
Does this mean that you have give them a console so that they can't change thread titles, or that they do have that functionality available to them but have been instructed not to use it?
If we must have user moderation, and it's pretty obvious what I think about that, at least give them the right tools to do the job and don't put a target on their back with by giving them a prefect badge.
BDB.......apart from spam I have only ever reported one post.It was one that had a picture of an ex forumite who left a year earlier and I thought it was unfair and wrong.....i then left it to see if RW agreed..........so if they chose on reporting anything other than spam I doubt i would have been asked......
We have strict instructions on how to hide spam and spam only......we don't actually delete we just hide so it is easy for them to check on what we have done.any disputes can be easily checked.......
LIVERBIRD wrote (see)
You'll have to wait now till tomorrow BDB. Gone five o'clock mate.......
That's when the night shift take over isn't it?
I wasn't going to get involved in this debate but have decided to say my bit which is........."Well done and thank you to Meldy, Seren, Jeepers and Intermanaut"
Thanks Seren - please don't think is is against any of you. I think RW need to answer and it's unfair of them to put you in the firing line. I know I'd hate it, along with the endless mails or other sharp communications you'll get from all over the forum asking you to do the tidying up.
The 'look at me' prefect button is a bad idea and will change the dynamics of the forum.
Some of us old timers remember why they scrapped the idea of introducing a whole heap of buttons a few years back for that very reason.
'Look at me' is a very snide and cynical remark. Grow up kk
Yeah I wanted a "Ive poo-ed outside" button until they deleted that epic thread
Madge. wrote (see)
'Look at me' is a very snide and cynical remark. Grow up kk
It attracts attention. No?
And I take offense to this, it was a comment about RW putting them in very public view, not that they had asked for that. I'm getting sick of being misunderstood by the same people.
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