Walking a marathon is easier?

Is It?

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24/04/2013 at 15:03
James B 73 has become my favourite forumite. I love his gems of wisdom.
24/04/2013 at 15:06
He is so right. These forums should be for supporting people. We can post to each other to google whatever the problem is.
24/04/2013 at 15:59

Didn't want to start a new thread for this, but thinking about the ballot next week and loosely related to walking a marathon - would you have a better chance of getting a place in the ballot if you put a really slow time? They must take into account predicted times so there's an even spread from 2 hours to 8 hours. A total guess, but I'm thinking your average club runner doing their first marathon would all be putting 3:30-4:30 - then you'd have a load of non-runners thinking around 4:00-4:30 would be do-able with a bit of training so surely your at a disadvantage putting around this time? I'm thinking of putting 6+ hours and seeing what happens - I appriciate this would mean starting right at the back and battling through the crowds, but I'd be happy with a slow start and to be overtaking rather than being overtaken.

Just a thought - in all honesty, I'll probably put my realistic finishing time but I think there's more of a chance if you are just 'walking it'. 

24/04/2013 at 16:04
Sussex Runner (NLR) wrote (see)
He is so right. These forums should be for supporting people. We can post to each other to google whatever the problem is.

And I suppose you think a forum on a running magazine should be for people to belittle everyone else so they can feel better about themselves perhaps?

24/04/2013 at 16:09

SR (NLR) - thanks. However, I have gained these insights from the very knowledgeable forumites on the Paris Marathon thread. And with their help and assistance they got me through my first marathon in Paris. Not only helping with training, injuries but also assisting through the good days and the bad days. Plenty of the latter.

And, as I say, this is what forums are for.

24/04/2013 at 16:10
JMopper wrote (see)
Sussex Runner (NLR) wrote (see)
He is so right. These forums should be for supporting people. We can post to each other to google whatever the problem is.

And I suppose you think a forum on a running magazine should be for people to belittle everyone else so they can feel better about themselves perhaps?

I took it in good faith. If it was not intended in good faith then so be it. I won't lose any sleep over it.

Dave The Ex- Spartan    pirate
24/04/2013 at 16:12
You don't get many in fancy dress or walking in Paris tho
24/04/2013 at 16:41
legend777 wrote (see)

Didn't want to start a new thread for this, but thinking about the ballot next week and loosely related to walking a marathon - would you have a better chance of getting a place in the ballot if you put a really slow time? They must take into account predicted times so there's an even spread from 2 hours to 8 hours. A total guess, but I'm thinking your average club runner doing their first marathon would all be putting 3:30-4:30 - then you'd have a load of non-runners thinking around 4:00-4:30 would be do-able with a bit of training so surely your at a disadvantage putting around this time? I'm thinking of putting 6+ hours and seeing what happens - I appriciate this would mean starting right at the back and battling through the crowds, but I'd be happy with a slow start and to be overtaking rather than being overtaken.

Just a thought - in all honesty, I'll probably put my realistic finishing time but I think there's more of a chance if you are just 'walking it'. 

 

Pen 9, the back pen, is the biggest one so I'd say that, if anything, the opposite is true. 

 

24/04/2013 at 16:46
Legend777 ,

You would have a better chance of getting in a marathon if you entered a different one. Starting from pen 9 sounds like it will be a truly miserable experience. Although this is in my oppinion, other people may think differently.
Edited: 24/04/2013 at 16:47
24/04/2013 at 16:47

Of course, a forum is for whatever people want to put onto it, so long as it complies with the rules of the forum and the laws of the land. Free speech, innit.

24/04/2013 at 16:47
I think the threads should be for what ever people want them to be. I'm not telling people what they should be for and how people should post. Doesn't mean that I don't find what people say funny sometimes.
24/04/2013 at 16:56
Sussex Runner (NLR) wrote (see)
I think the threads should be for what ever people want them to be. I'm not telling people what they should be for and how people should post. Doesn't mean that I don't find what people say funny sometimes.


Actually trying to help, but if it boosts your ego.

24/04/2013 at 17:23

  Just to chip in with a comment on ITBS, I thought I'd share my own experiment-of-one-experience. I started training seriously for my first marathon (which is this Sunday) back in December. I'd tried to start six weeks earlier but was almost immediately scuppered by what I self-diagnosed as ITBS. I spent a long time googling all manner of research and advice, even shelling out 20 dollars on an ITBS self-help pdf.

  Anyway, I couldn't run for six weeks. Since then I've had no problems at all and I'm left with the sneaking suspicion that the whole thing was caused by my lack of fitness. But, hey, who knows; I never consulted a physio so all this is just wild speculation.

  As for the OP's question, I don't know the answer, but I do know that my intention is to run the distance on Sunday.

24/04/2013 at 18:00
James.I think it's lovely that you're actually trying to help. It doesn't boost my ego though.
Dave The Ex- Spartan    pirate
24/04/2013 at 18:19

http://media.theweek.com/img/dir_0069/34929_cartoon_main/newts-ego-boost.jpg?173

 

24/04/2013 at 21:10

I'm a sample of one and can't yet complete a marathon in under 2:30 so quite clearly, my opinions mean nothing. However, I will say that my PB marathon was one where I ran the entire thing and my worst ones have been in the 7+ hour range with a lot of walking. I can say easily that the PB with 100% running was my easiest by far.

Those of you who have noted that the 7+ brigade did not look elated you are 100% correct. The slower runners do not get any of the perks that the faster runners get. In many places there are no crowds, the drinks are packed away,  the balloons at the mile markers are gone and even some of the red mats are gone by the time you get to the 40K mark. This can be heart wrenching for those who have families tracking progress. I was at the finish when I was able to reassure a worried family member that their runner probably had passed 40K but the mat was no longer there.

It is soul destroying to turn the corner after Tower Bridge while the majority of the runners are getting all the crowds and fanfare as they are nearing the 22-mile mark. That's definitely a low point for me two years in a row at the marathon. I was personally mortified post-marathon to see the Lucozade Mile 23 video with all the fun, encouragement and fanfare that the faster runners got. The slower runners got nothing but a dark and empty tunnel. Also, you never know why somebody is slow. Perhaps they have arthritis. Perhaps they are in their 80s and this is their 20-something marathon. Are they less of a marathoner now they are taking 7:30 vs. the 3:30 of their youth? I think not. There were also people deliberately going slowly so that they could raise money and raise awareness for their charity. The marathon is about the human spirit and a person's personal best. Good on you if you're good enough to race it and come in the top 100. Some of the back of the packers are raising a phenomenal amount of £ for their charities, £20K plus. They have nothing but my admiration. I think it is inappropriate to use this forum to bash people who complete the London Marathon in a slow time. There are marathons that cater solely for faster runners and of course Boston is a good example of this. If slow runners or walkers get on your nerves so much, race only fast courses.

Personally I want to get faster for personal reasons, to beat my PB and to enjoy the pomp and circumstance that the front and middle-of-the-pack runners get.

Just my opinion...

Edited: 24/04/2013 at 21:22
24/04/2013 at 21:26
It is clearly stated in the race final instructions that, if you are behind 7 hr pace then you will have to become a prudent pedestrian as they will have to re open the roads and pack everything away.

I fully understand that some of the back markers may be old, arthritic, in elaborate fancy dress etc. but I would think that there are many more who did not put in enough training and completely underestimated the amount of hard work that goes into running 26.2 miles. Just my opinion.
24/04/2013 at 21:36

Millsy, I agree that a lot of people underestimate the amount of hard work that goes into running 26.2. When people say the second half of the race starts at 22 miles, it's totally true. However, it's not just the slower people. I have seen a lot of fit and seasoned runners with decent half marathon times go into the marathon deluded into thinking that 13.1 miles is halfway with finishing times that are much slower than they had hoped for.

Re: prudent pedestrian, yes, it does indeed state that clearly Millsy! If anything has scared me into wanting to get fast again it's that as I never want to be in that boat again! I witnessed something quite horrible as a result of this. Between mile 20 and 21 where marathoners had to then run on the pavement, mixing with large crowds milling on the pavement, one of them had a nasty crash into the barriers as there was literally no room for them to move. They were with a friend and a police officer was nearby, so she got aid, but it looked like she had a nasty bang to the head. I hope she managed to finish, what a blow to get that far and have to bow out.

Edited: 24/04/2013 at 21:40
24/04/2013 at 22:01

On a tangent specifically directed at David Falconer 3: should triathletes who can't swim butterfly be banned from taking part in triathlons?  

Edited: 24/04/2013 at 22:03
Tommygun2    pirate
24/04/2013 at 22:20
Eh.....I would have thought most triathletes don't or can't swim butterfly.
What point are you trying to make.
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