Want to race but cant

childcare issue!

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Slow_coach    pirate
15/01/2012 at 12:31

hi all

I only started running again recently and am enjoing it a lot. So much that have planned to do as many events this year as possible, to keep my interest, motivation and fitness up.

My husband is a runner as well and run a few events up to a couple of years ago, then stopped and started again soon after I joined my local club (but he joined a different club). He is very happy that I have started running however I feel I m not getting the support I hoped I would get.

As we are planning the same races the first thought in my mind is our kids (10 and 12 Years old). Who is going to look after them? (cant rely on family or friends)  I suggested that we take it in turns, of which races to enter, and look after the kids while the other is racing. His response was no. He is adamant that he is doing the races. As far as he is concerned the kids can wait at the finish line as we both run at the same time. I m not comfortable with that at all.

I feel very annoyed about his attitude and am not far away from saying sod it Ill stop running, let him get on with it and be done.

 

What do you think?? Has anyone been in a similar situation and can give advice?

thanks

Edited: 15/01/2012 at 12:47
15/01/2012 at 12:52

I don't think I would be happy with leaving a 10 year old waiting at the finish line either.

I think you need to sit him down and tell him that that is just not fair.

The other alternative is: is there anyone else in your running club that has childcare issues with races? Could you make an arrangement with them to take turns and look after each others' kids at the staft/finish lines? (or at home).

A naughty part of me thinks this would be particularly effective if the other person was a single dad, as en element of jealously might make your husband see sense!!

15/01/2012 at 15:17
Bloody hell!! Just tell him kids are a shared responsibility. Why did he have kids if he didn't want to take a turn every now and again? I must admit it was never a problem in our household where we all are runners including the kids (grown up now and left home). There are loads of subtle underhand ways I can think of to make his life hell..... but you too are a woman and we are a resourceful bunch! Joking apart, I feel for you SC - the simple answer is to enter different events? I am still seething for you over the fact that he actually stopped running and only started again when you did... can you not start making yourself scarce on his running club nights....
15/01/2012 at 15:28
Slow_coach wrote (see)

I feel very annoyed about his attitude and am not far away from saying  sod it Ill stop running, let him get on with it and be done.


Don't - it sounds as if he's just jealous and giving up is exactly what would suit him.  If you enjoy running then you should be able to continue - both of you.

It sounds to me as if he's being unreasonable - the obvious thing would be to run different races so that one of you is able to stay with the children.  IMHO, at the ages that you've mentioned, I'd consider them too young to be left on their own during a race - I wouldn't be able to concentrate on the race if I'd left my children on their own under those circumstances.  The law is a bit vague about leaving children on their own at that age, so I'd be careful from that point of view.

As a single parent, I have to manage my training around the times when my children are at school and my races can only be on specific weekends, within a specific travelling distance from home.  There have been a number of times when I'd have liked to have done a certain race but couldn't because of looking after the children.

mathsschick wrote (see)

A naughty part of me thinks this would be particularly effective if the other person was a single dad, as en element of jealously might make your husband see sense!!

I'd hate to be used like that.  As an SP, I know how difficult it is to train and get to races (as described above) and while I'd be more than happy to help out another SP (whether mum or dad) I'd hate to think that someone was just using me or taking advantage of me in that way.  I'd also hate to be dragged into someone else' domestic issues.

15/01/2012 at 16:40
Jeepers  wrote (see)
mathsschick wrote (see)

A naughty part of me thinks this would be particularly effective if the other person was a single dad, as en element of jealously might make your husband see sense!!

I'd hate to be used like that. 

Jeepers - I know whick is why I said 'a naughty part of me' - I wouldn't actually do it! It is just the kind of thing you think of when you are annoyed I think.

15/01/2012 at 16:45
Well, I still think he's a selfish *%£"* - this is 2012 not 1812 children are not simply the responsibility of the woman!
15/01/2012 at 17:09
mathschick wrote (see)
Jeepers  wrote (see)
mathsschick wrote (see)

A naughty part of me thinks this would be particularly effective if the other person was a single dad, as en element of jealously might make your husband see sense!!

I'd hate to be used like that. 

Jeepers - I know whick is why I said 'a naughty part of me' - I wouldn't actually do it! It is just the kind of thing you think of when you are annoyed I think.


Still not a very nice thing to say or think.
Slow_coach    pirate
15/01/2012 at 17:20
mathschick wrote (see)

I think you need to sit him down and tell him that that is just not fair.

The other alternative is: is there anyone else in your running club that has childcare issues with races? Could you make an arrangement with them to take turns and look after each others' kids at the staft/finish lines? (or at home).


Hi mathschick, thanks for your reply. I did try to discuss things with him but he just brushes it off as he made is mind up and in his opinion there is nothing to talk about. In his opinion if our son is old enough to make his way to school by bus 10miles away (albeit once a week) he is old enough to wait at the end of the race.

Im new to my club and most of them are man (where the wife doesnt run) or single younger ladies who take part in all races. Was not considering begging for childcare when I have a husband and I believe that we are a team and we should support each other. 

Tigerlily wrote (see)
Bloody hell!! Just tell him kids are a shared responsibility. Why did he have kids if he didn't want to take a turn every now and again? I must admit it was never a problem in our household where we all are runners including the kids (grown up now and left home). There are loads of subtle underhand ways I can think of to make his life hell..... but you too are a woman and we are a resourceful bunch! Joking apart, I feel for you SC - the simple answer is to enter different events? I am still seething for you over the fact that he actually stopped running and only started again when you did... can you not start making yourself scarce on his running club nights....

Hi Tigerlily,
the kids have done a couple of kids races prior to the larger event, yes, when they are older they can either participate or be left alone without any issues.

Participate a different events? Yes if I take up javelin or windsurfing ,  he has

intention to participate in every local race . He is also under the impression that he is under obligation to represent his Club at every event!

For example I did a 6m xc race soon after I started training and quite enjoyed it. Talking to my hubby about it, he said that he didnt have any interest at all in XC running. He didnt like the uneven surface, he said it causes injuries and it was not fun. I could not persuade him, UNTIL he joined his Club, they told him "why dont you join us on this /that xc race" and next thing he bought himself a pair of xc trainers (which I said try it before you commit to spending £60 odd for a race you might not enjoy?) and now he does all the XC he can, to represent his Club (according to his work shifts). 

So essentially we want to enter the same sort of events (10m / 10k) for now then in a few months time I want to attempt my first ever 1/2 marathon but he is taking all the fun away. I feel like Im competing against him and Im not good enough, a nuisance, a spoil sport, the newby trying to take all the fun away from him.

PS dont worry I wont try the 'jelousy' technique. It's just not me.

Edited: 15/01/2012 at 17:29
15/01/2012 at 17:32
I think you've hit the nail on the head SC - he feels threatened by you. Imagine, (shock horror!!) if you beat him? Do you not have a friend close by who'd help out? I'd be bloody fuming too... in fact I am, on your behalf!! Send him to live with me for a month - I'll sort him out!!!!
15/01/2012 at 17:47

jeepers - sorry, I really didn't even mean it to sound that bad, wish I could take it back. I should think before I type!

anyway, SC - I think you should try to talk to him again and tell him exactly how you feel. He probably does feel potentiall jealous of who you might be running with when you are with your club - he doesn't know who is there and if he is like my OH will be feeling jeakous unnecessarily.

How come he joined a different club anyway?

Slow_coach    pirate
15/01/2012 at 17:56
Tigerlily wrote (see)
I think you've hit the nail on the head SC - he feels threatened by you. Imagine, (shock horror!!) if you beat him? Do you not have a friend close by who'd help out? I'd be bloody fuming too... in fact I am, on your behalf!! Send him to live with me for a month - I'll sort him out!!!!


Oops I didnt mean anywhere that he feels threatened by me, its not possible. He has been running for years and done several events, in good shape. I just started and am overweigh (by about 2 st max) no way he is threatened by me. He knows he is better than me. I am fuming too, believe me.

By the way where do you live

mathschick wrote (see)

jeepers - sorry, I really didn't even mean it to sound that bad, wish I could take it back. I should think before I type!

anyway, SC - I think you should try to talk to him again and tell him exactly how you feel. He probably does feel potentiall jealous of who you might be running with when you are with your club - he doesn't know who is there and if he is like my OH will be feeling jeakous unnecessarily.

How come he joined a different club anyway?


Dont worry, I have no intention to do that

I'll try and tell him or show him the thread, hummm

He joined a different club because in his evaluation his Club is better than mine I guess it's MUCH bigger and better organized, oh well... my club it'll do a mediocre runner like me.

Edited: 15/01/2012 at 18:04
15/01/2012 at 18:02
All I can add (as a non saintly husband and father of 3) is that I believe your OH's behaviour is unreasonable. He should be able to find an acceptable compromise. Also do not give up something which you enjoy.
15/01/2012 at 18:11

SC - he could feel threatened because he might worry that you will become good at something he has always seen as something that he is far better at. Once you have lost weight and done some training your times might get as good as his (or even better).

Maybe he doesn't realise just how much this is upsetting you. It took me a couple of goes of speaking to my OH. He was a bit upset when he realised I had posted on here asking for advice when he kept trying to stop me from going out the door to run/race

15/01/2012 at 18:27
SC - I'd second what Mathschick says - he DOES feel threatened. Or else he thinks because he is the "better" runner why would it bother you not to run when you are at such an inferior level? (utter b*****ks!)

.......... thank you JP for your input - even you (non-saintly LOL) can see this isn't fair. It's just plain wrong on any level.

I have no solution for you SC - what I would do and what you WILL do or are willing to do will be totally at odds because we are different characters. I hope you can make him see sense. Surely it is your right as mother of his children to be able to do something that is close to your heart with his support?

I'm going to get a glass of wine before I implode.... LOL xx
15/01/2012 at 18:34

A one-time single parent writes:

Of course it's unfair, assuming that the OP's account is truthful and complete. Always hard to judge when given just one side of the story. That said, he does sound like a bit of a deluded wannabe alpha type. He is acting selfishly and unreasonably and seems to think that it's your job alone to mind the kids.

I'd remind him gently, or not so gently, that partnership or marriage or whatever is a joint enterprise between two equals. It's all about sharing the good and the not so good. He should learn to take turns.

Put him on short rations until he gets the message.

15/01/2012 at 18:41

+1

Hit him where it hurts.

15/01/2012 at 18:45
A bad case of blue balls can be highly persuasive.
Slow_coach    pirate
15/01/2012 at 19:51
Muttley wrote (see)

A one-time single parent writes:

Of course it's unfair, assuming that the OP's account is truthful and complete. Always hard to judge when given just one side of the story. That said, he does sound like a bit of a deluded wannabe alpha type. He is acting selfishly and unreasonably and seems to think that it's your job alone to mind the kids.

I'd remind him gently, or not so gently, that partnership or marriage or whatever is a joint enterprise between two equals. It's all about sharing the good and the not so good. He should learn to take turns.

Put him on short rations until he gets the message. 

I take with with a little offence that someone would doubt that my account is 'truthful and complete'.
With my best efforts cant see what part I could have miscontruded or misrepresented for my own benefit.

Anyhow thank you very much for yours and everyone else contribution. Dont feel any better but it's nice to see that there are people who would share my frustration.

Edited: 15/01/2012 at 19:53
15/01/2012 at 19:53

Just to say that last year my husband decided to take up running, which put my nose out of joint a little bit because it meant compromising on the races I do as we have a 9 year old. But that's what you do when you have kids and it is not right that one parent gives up all the races.  There is no way we would leave him on his own by the finish, even for a 5k.

We ended up asking my mum to babysit a few times so we could do the same races but that's not fair on her.  I did take a hard line once - I'd registered for the 2011 Great South Run the day after the 2010 one, and then my other half registered for it too.  I said he had to find a babysitter or he wasn't doing it, as I'd registered first.  He was going to ask his sister and then she broke her hip!  So my poor mum got roped in again for the last time.

So we take it in turns.  For example, last year I did Bramley and the Fleet Half,  so my husband is running those this year and I am doing the Wokingham half instead.

Write out a plan - each of you gets to choose a race every other month.  Then the other chooses.  There may not be a clash, but if there is, you each get your first choice every other time. Sorted. If he refuses, you go out every morning he has a race until he gets the message.

I hate men who think their hobbies are more important than their wives' (or vice versa, but I see it more often your way round).

15/01/2012 at 20:14

"I take with with a little offence that someone would doubt that my account is 'truthful and complete'.
With my best efforts cant see what part I could have miscontruded or misrepresented for my own benefit."

Just pointing out that there are two sides to every story. Take as much offence as you wish! 

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